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After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files
on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, Try connecting using the IP address. In file explorer, in the path bar \\192.168.1.2\sharename and it should prompt for an account if one is needed. For this to work, you can go to Command Prompt on the other (serving) machine and get the IP address ipconfig Go back to the other machine, with known IP address in hand, and make the connection. You might have to resort to logging in first like this if that doesn't work on the first try. \\192.168.1.2 ******* The purpose of using an IP address, is to bypass a broken NetBIOS nameserving function. Windows 7 may have two "Function Discovery ..." services, which are a different way of doing nameserving, and those are used for HomeGroup. I don't know which one is related to NetBIOS. HTH, Paul |
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"Paul" schreef in bericht
... Linea Recta wrote: After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, Try connecting using the IP address. In file explorer, in the path bar \\192.168.1.2\sharename and it should prompt for an account if one is needed. For this to work, you can go to Command Prompt on the other (serving) machine and get the IP address ipconfig Go back to the other machine, with known IP address in hand, and make the connection. You might have to resort to logging in first like this if that doesn't work on the first try. \\192.168.1.2 ******* The purpose of using an IP address, is to bypass a broken NetBIOS nameserving function. Windows 7 may have two "Function Discovery ..." services, which are a different way of doing nameserving, and those are used for HomeGroup. I don't know which one is related to NetBIOS. HTH, Paul Thanks for replying. Tried your suggestions. No solution though. On one occasion I got a "problem solver", but after a while "this problem could not be solved". I dont understand, how can an ms update mess up my settings. I;m no network expert and stay away as far as possible to prevent complications. But now this was done for me automatically. In network centre I see double lines between THISCOMPUTER==============ROUTER=================I NTERNET Does that give any clue? -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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can this issue be about "homegroups"?
I dont want to use that. How can I change/disable that? Just share user files over the lan. -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
"Paul" schreef in bericht ... Linea Recta wrote: After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, Try connecting using the IP address. In file explorer, in the path bar \\192.168.1.2\sharename and it should prompt for an account if one is needed. For this to work, you can go to Command Prompt on the other (serving) machine and get the IP address ipconfig Go back to the other machine, with known IP address in hand, and make the connection. You might have to resort to logging in first like this if that doesn't work on the first try. \\192.168.1.2 ******* The purpose of using an IP address, is to bypass a broken NetBIOS nameserving function. Windows 7 may have two "Function Discovery ..." services, which are a different way of doing nameserving, and those are used for HomeGroup. I don't know which one is related to NetBIOS. HTH, Paul Thanks for replying. Tried your suggestions. No solution though. On one occasion I got a "problem solver", but after a while "this problem could not be solved". I dont understand, how can an ms update mess up my settings. I;m no network expert and stay away as far as possible to prevent complications. But now this was done for me automatically. In network centre I see double lines between THISCOMPUTER==============ROUTER=================I NTERNET Does that give any clue? There's a button for network map. What does it show ? Network map is possible on Windows 7, via probing with SSDP support. It's possible in the picture below, the WinXP machine is "discounted" because no SSDP is running on it and only NetBIOS detected it. I checked the "ipconfig" on my three machines and they're all on the same subnet (I neglected to add the IP values here). https://i.postimg.cc/C1K7YSpN/win7-details.gif One thing you can try, is lets assume the current machine is 192.168.1.1, and I know the IP addresses of some other machines, I can "ping" them and see if the "wires" are connected to the other LAN members. You say you have Internet access, but that's a proof that the WAN connection is there. The ping helps verify the LAN is there. ping 192.168.1.2 ping 192.168.1.3 Another tool is this one. I think if you accidentally have nodes on different workgroups, it still lists them. The /24 refers to the size of the netmask, and the remaining 8 bits scans 256 addresses. If you changed the /24 to /16, it would consider the subnet to cover 192.168.x.x and 65536 addresses. That's why the /24 is on the end of that specification. http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan-1.0.35.exe nbtscan 192.168.1.0/24 You can run that program from any of the machines on the subnet, check for "partitions" or whatever. Paul |
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Linea Recta wrote:
can this issue be about "homegroups"? I dont want to use that. How can I change/disable that? Just share user files over the lan. Looks like John has the answer. Paul |
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In article , lid (Linea Recta)
wrote: *From:* "Linea Recta" *Date:* Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:27:39 +0100 Linea Recta wrote: After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? It's a known problem apparently. See: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/0...etwork_broken/ -- Regards John ) Remove the obvious to reply... |
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On 1/10/2019 7:54 AM, Linea Recta wrote:
After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, This might be another broken Microsoft update. Remove all three updates. Then test to determine if the problem is resolved. If so, then install the updates ONE AT A TIME, testing after each installation. When you find which update caused the problem, remove it. -- David E. Ross Trump again proves he is a major source of fake news. He wants to cut off disaster funds to repair the damage caused by the Woolsey Fire in southern California because he claims the state fails to manage its forests properly. The Woolsey Fire was NOT a forest fire. Starting in an industrial tract, it did not burn through any forests. See http://www.rossde.com/fire.html. |
no network after updates urgent
Linea Recta wrote:
After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, Personal preference of course, but I stopped updating when MS went to the monthly roll ups that hide individual updates. I really don't need the latest currency symbol for Eritrea and if I let some stranger sit at my computer(s) and install a "specially crafted file" then I have more than just computer problems to worry about. |
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On 1/10/2019 12:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 1/10/2019 7:54 AM, Linea Recta wrote: After 3 ms updates & reboot laptop I cant connect anymore to my shared files on my pc. panic. Laptop is connected to router by wifi and has internet access. PC is connected to router by cable and has internet access. When I click on the other computer under network, I get an error: could not be found. From other computer: same result. I have util wifi-guard and it does find the other pc. Why cant I go in there with windows file explorer normally? Restoring image from before the updates: problem solved. What to do? Do I skip the latest updates? regards, This might be another broken Microsoft update. Remove all three updates. Then test to determine if the problem is resolved. If so, then install the updates ONE AT A TIME, testing after each installation. When you find which update caused the problem, remove it. You are apparently not alone. See https://tech.slashdot.org/story/19/01/10/1640232/windows-7-users-who-installed-january-update-report-network-issues-some-say-the-update-has-also-incorrectly-flagged-their-os-license-as-not-genuine. -- David E. Ross Trump again proves he is a major source of fake news. He wants to cut off disaster funds to repair the damage caused by the Woolsey Fire in southern California because he claims the state fails to manage its forests properly. The Woolsey Fire was NOT a forest fire. Starting in an industrial tract, it did not burn through any forests. See http://www.rossde.com/fire.html. |
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