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John May 29th 05 01:54 AM

sp2 to sp1
 
Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards



Jupiter Jones [MVP] May 29th 05 02:14 AM

John;
Did SP-2 come installed on the computer or was SP-2 part of the installation
CD?
Perform a Repair Installation with a pre SP-2 CD should do it.
But you may have problems with the Product Key, Activation etc depending on
the versions involved.

Why do you want to downgrade the security of your computer?
Eventually you will need SP-2.

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"John" wrote in message
...
Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards




kurttrail May 29th 05 02:19 AM

John wrote:
Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I
would like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards


WARNING! BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

Okay, What did I just say?

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

Is that clear?

One more time!

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

You can try to do a repair install with the SP1 CD.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

But remember:

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

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S.Sengupta May 29th 05 02:33 AM

How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

John wrote:

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards



lucyfer May 29th 05 09:05 AM

This depends on whether your SP2 is a part of your installation. CD just as
Jupiter said.
:)
"S.Sengupta"
...
How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

John wrote:

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards



John May 29th 05 02:52 PM

The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2. I am having problem with one access
app which uses internet transfer control to post to a web site and it does
not work with sp2. All pre-sp2 pcs work fine. I have worked with an ISA
server MS guy (as all pcs are behind and sbs2003/Isa 2000 server) and he
thinks somehow sp2 is prohibiting the itc from sending user credentials to
ISA server hence ISA server responds by 407 Proxy authentication required.
Have spent a lot of time on both pc and server settings. Don't know what to
do except downgrade the pc to sp1.

Thanks

Regards


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
John;
Did SP-2 come installed on the computer or was SP-2 part of the
installation CD?
Perform a Repair Installation with a pre SP-2 CD should do it.
But you may have problems with the Product Key, Activation etc depending
on the versions involved.

Why do you want to downgrade the security of your computer?
Eventually you will need SP-2.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol
http://www.dts-l.org


"John" wrote in message
...
Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards






John May 29th 05 02:55 PM

Would any of these method required re-installing apps?

Thanks

Regards

"S.Sengupta" wrote in message
...
How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

John wrote:

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards



Carey Frisch [MVP] May 29th 05 03:07 PM

If SP2 is included with your new Dell PC, it cannot be uninstalled
or removed. Therefore, you cannot downgrade your system to SP1.

Using programs and hardware with Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://support.microsoft.com/xpsp2swhw

Some programs 'seem' to stop working after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842242

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"John" wrote:

| The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2. I am having problem with one access
| app which uses internet transfer control to post to a web site and it does
| not work with sp2. All pre-sp2 pcs work fine. I have worked with an ISA
| server MS guy (as all pcs are behind and sbs2003/Isa 2000 server) and he
| thinks somehow sp2 is prohibiting the itc from sending user credentials to
| ISA server hence ISA server responds by 407 Proxy authentication required.
| Have spent a lot of time on both pc and server settings. Don't know what to
| do except downgrade the pc to sp1.
|
| Thanks
|
| Regards


lucyfer May 29th 05 03:11 PM

Hi John,

I noticed that your SP2 is pre-installed ,so cannot be removed separatedly.
"John" ...
Would any of these method required re-installing apps?

Thanks

Regards

"S.Sengupta" wrote in message
...
How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

John wrote:

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I
would like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards





John May 29th 05 03:20 PM

I have got a couple of new pcs coming in the same configuration. If I
repair-install with sp1 before installing any app, would that work?
Obviously I can always completely wipe off and start with sp1 on a pc but
whatever is quickest.

Regards

"lucyfer" wrote in message
...
Hi John,

I noticed that your SP2 is pre-installed ,so cannot be removed
separatedly.
"John"
...
Would any of these method required re-installing apps?

Thanks

Regards

"S.Sengupta" wrote in message
...
How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

John wrote:

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I
would like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards







Carey Frisch [MVP] May 29th 05 04:17 PM

No. There are no SP2 uninstall files with a preinstalled SP2 installation.
An attempted Repair Install using a SP1 Windows XP CD will fail because
SP2 would have to be uninstalled first.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"John" wrote:

| I have got a couple of new pcs coming in the same configuration. If I
| repair-install with sp1 before installing any app, would that work?
| Obviously I can always completely wipe off and start with sp1 on a pc but
| whatever is quickest.
|
| Regards


Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\) May 29th 05 04:25 PM

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

No. There are no SP2 uninstall files with a preinstalled SP2
installation. An attempted Repair Install using a SP1 Windows XP CD
will fail because SP2 would have to be uninstalled first.

Hi,

Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
actually remove SP2.

From
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

quote
Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
/quote


--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx

kurttrail May 29th 05 04:36 PM

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

No. There are no SP2 uninstall files with a preinstalled SP2
installation. An attempted Repair Install using a SP1 Windows XP CD
will fail because SP2 would have to be uninstalled first.

Hi,

Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
actually remove SP2.

From
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

quote
Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
/quote


Thanks Torgeir!

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Carey Frisch [MVP] May 29th 05 04:55 PM

Hello Torgeir -

SP2 cannot be removed if the original SP2 uninstall files do not exist,
such as the case with a preinstalled Windows XP installation with SP2
already slipstreamed in at the factory.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

| Hi,
|
| Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
| actually remove SP2.
|
| From
| http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
|
| quote
| Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
| will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
| /quote
|
|
| --
| torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
| Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
| the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx

R. McCarty May 29th 05 05:00 PM

I think the point of contention is that if you perform a "Repair" install
with any earlier XP version disk, you will remove whatever SP level
existed. But you are right that embedded or Slipstreamed disks do
not have a SP roll-back capability.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Hello Torgeir -

SP2 cannot be removed if the original SP2 uninstall files do not exist,
such as the case with a preinstalled Windows XP installation with SP2
already slipstreamed in at the factory.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...xp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

| Hi,
|
| Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
| actually remove SP2.
|
| From
| http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
|
| quote
| Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
| will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
| /quote
|
|
| --
| torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
| Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
| the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx





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