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/less February 17th 16 04:34 AM

ReactOS
 
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

Good Guy[_2_] February 17th 16 05:29 AM

ReactOS
 
On 17/02/16 04:34, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!



This is a windows newsgroup; you need to post where all junkies hang
around. We use Microsoft Operating System on which we can run Visual
Studio 2015.




John Q. Public[_7_] February 17th 16 06:10 AM

ReactOS
 
Slimer wrote:
1. Run Linux LiveCD, enjoy what I'm using.
2. Attempt to install Linux. For whatever reason, it doesn't see my RAID
and forces me to use my two SSDs as separate drives rather than just one.
3. Install Linux anyway and am pleased to discover that all of the
hardware works. Don't mind that startup goes from taking 8 seconds to
about 60.
4. Run Steam, it asks to update.
5. Update the whole computer.
6. Steam suddenly doesn't load at all.
7. Try to restore the Macrium Reflect image of my previous Windows 10
install: it fails (apparently because the RAID I re-created is different
even though the settings are identical. However, it claims that the
image is corrupted).
8. Try to restore my computer's image of Windows 8.1 OS install, created
when I purchased the machine. It fails as well.
9. Out of desperate, try to restore an image of the whole computer and
risk losing all of my data. Luckily, it works without deleting the data
I was careful to put on a separate drive.
10. Partitions are suddenly out of whack even though the RAID was for
two M.2 SSD drives totaling 240GB. Everything works but EaseUS is used
to correct the partitions and bring everything back to normal.


Windows 10? No wonder you had problems. Try installing Linux with
Windows 10 nowhere near the machine. And when you do, install Linux Mint
Mate and then get back to us with your stereotypes, biases and ignorance.

BTW, Windows 10 is more of a store than an operating system. Be prepared
to pay rent soon.

--
John Q. Public

Paul February 17th 16 07:36 AM

ReactOS
 
/less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


No need to download it.

You can learn about it here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS

"the German weekly magazine Der Spiegel
describes ReactOS as directed at Windows
users who want to renounce use of proprietary
commercial software without having to switch to Linux.
"

Um, kinky.

Paul

JJ[_11_] February 17th 16 10:41 AM

ReactOS
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:34:36 +0700, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


What the heck is the difference between the normal (live and boot) and
FOSDEM version, *other* than FOSDEM version being a hybrid live+install
combo CD?

Both live and boot normal versions are 90MB+ ZIP, but the FOSDEM is *300MB+
7Zip*. There must be other things not included in both live and boot
versions.

philo February 17th 16 10:58 AM

ReactOS
 
On 02/16/2016 10:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/




Don't waste your time, I tried it and essentially it's a pre-Alpha
Windows 2000 clone


Almost nothing works

Slimer February 17th 16 03:31 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once installed,
froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working at all after
an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't deserve to be run
in general.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

philo February 17th 16 03:53 PM

ReactOS
 
On 02/17/2016 09:31 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once installed,
froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working at all after
an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't deserve to be run
in general.




Linux is a great OS


ReactOS has nothing to do with Linux,

you are correct that ReactOS doesn't work...but to repeat...

it is NOT Linux

Slimer February 17th 16 04:29 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-17 10:53 AM, philo wrote:
On 02/17/2016 09:31 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once installed,
froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working at all after
an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't deserve to be run
in general.




Linux is a great OS


My experiences with me, even the most recent, has shown otherwise.

ReactOS has nothing to do with Linux,


No ****. However, they are both open-source.

you are correct that ReactOS doesn't work...but to repeat...

it is NOT Linux


Nobody ever said that it was.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.

Stef February 17th 16 04:58 PM

ReactOS
 
/less wrote:

Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


Been following its development for some years now just out of
curiousity. If it ever reaches "final release" status, will it run my
old Windows 2000 or XP apps? Didn't think so. That's much of the
reason that many don't upgrade to newer Windows: the excessive cost of
to replace all that perfectly good, working, still useful software.

Stef

philo February 17th 16 05:42 PM

ReactOS
 
On 02/17/2016 10:29 AM, Slimer wrote:

My experiences with me, even the most recent, has shown otherwise.

ReactOS has nothing to do with Linux,


No ****. However, they are both open-source.

you are correct that ReactOS doesn't work...but to repeat...

it is NOT Linux


Nobody ever said that it was.




I just use what works. In the 16 years I've been a Linux user, my
experience has been pretty good, but I use Windows and OSX too.

I just select what is best for the job at hand.


I have to applaud the folks at ReactOS for trying, but they are just
wasting their time. If they keep going at their present rate, they will
have successfully cloned Widows 2000 within the next ten years.

Slimer February 17th 16 05:57 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-17 11:58 AM, Stef wrote:
/less wrote:

Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/


Been following its development for some years now just out of
curiousity. If it ever reaches "final release" status, will it run my
old Windows 2000 or XP apps? Didn't think so. That's much of the
reason that many don't upgrade to newer Windows: the excessive cost of
to replace all that perfectly good, working, still useful software.


As well as the hardware from that era which probably won't work with
subsequent releases. If Windows 2000 and XP are good enough for you and
you don't mind that they're basically full of holes as a result of a
lack of continued Microsoft support, there's nothing wrong with that.
Hell, George R. R. Martin uses WordStar on an old 286 running MS-DOS.


--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.

Slimer February 17th 16 06:04 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-17 12:42 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/17/2016 10:29 AM, Slimer wrote:

My experiences with me, even the most recent, has shown otherwise.

ReactOS has nothing to do with Linux,


No ****. However, they are both open-source.

you are correct that ReactOS doesn't work...but to repeat...

it is NOT Linux


Nobody ever said that it was.


I just use what works. In the 16 years I've been a Linux user, my
experience has been pretty good, but I use Windows and OSX too.


I am fond of what the open-source movement stands for and that extends
to Linux. However, I have just finished repairing the problems Linux
caused on my computer. Here's a chronology:

1. Run Linux LiveCD, enjoy what I'm using.
2. Attempt to install Linux. For whatever reason, it doesn't see my RAID
and forces me to use my two SSDs as separate drives rather than just one.
3. Install Linux anyway and am pleased to discover that all of the
hardware works. Don't mind that startup goes from taking 8 seconds to
about 60.
4. Run Steam, it asks to update.
5. Update the whole computer.
6. Steam suddenly doesn't load at all.
7. Try to restore the Macrium Reflect image of my previous Windows 10
install: it fails (apparently because the RAID I re-created is different
even though the settings are identical. However, it claims that the
image is corrupted).
8. Try to restore my computer's image of Windows 8.1 OS install, created
when I purchased the machine. It fails as well.
9. Out of desperate, try to restore an image of the whole computer and
risk losing all of my data. Luckily, it works without deleting the data
I was careful to put on a separate drive.
10. Partitions are suddenly out of whack even though the RAID was for
two M.2 SSD drives totaling 240GB. Everything works but EaseUS is used
to correct the partitions and bring everything back to normal.

Had I simply not been seduced by the middle-aged, diseased whore known
as Linux, I could have saved a few hours of my time.

I just select what is best for the job at hand.


Which is essentially _never_ Linux.

I have to applaud the folks at ReactOS for trying, but they are just
wasting their time. If they keep going at their present rate, they will
have successfully cloned Widows 2000 within the next ten years.


Agreed. Still, I believe that it would develop faster if they pumped
some government money into it. As it is, China and Russia have both
expressed distaste at Microsoft's software and are thinking of
abandoning it completely. However, it is short-sighted as many of their
businesses likely still depend on Windows software. A well-built
alternative in ReactOS could solve their problem if they invested in its
development.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.

Slimer February 17th 16 06:32 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-17 1:10 AM, John Q. Public wrote:
Slimer wrote:
1. Run Linux LiveCD, enjoy what I'm using.
2. Attempt to install Linux. For whatever reason, it doesn't see my RAID
and forces me to use my two SSDs as separate drives rather than just one.
3. Install Linux anyway and am pleased to discover that all of the
hardware works. Don't mind that startup goes from taking 8 seconds to
about 60.
4. Run Steam, it asks to update.
5. Update the whole computer.
6. Steam suddenly doesn't load at all.
7. Try to restore the Macrium Reflect image of my previous Windows 10
install: it fails (apparently because the RAID I re-created is different
even though the settings are identical. However, it claims that the
image is corrupted).
8. Try to restore my computer's image of Windows 8.1 OS install, created
when I purchased the machine. It fails as well.
9. Out of desperate, try to restore an image of the whole computer and
risk losing all of my data. Luckily, it works without deleting the data
I was careful to put on a separate drive.
10. Partitions are suddenly out of whack even though the RAID was for
two M.2 SSD drives totaling 240GB. Everything works but EaseUS is used
to correct the partitions and bring everything back to normal.


Windows 10? No wonder you had problems.


With Windows 8.1 and 10, my computer boots to the desktop in about 8
seconds and is completely ready for action after about 20. In Linux, one
whole minute and the icons in KDE still hadn't appeared. Not only that
but if my display turned off in Linux (kernel 4.4 btw), it froze the
computer. That is definitely not what I would consider to be quality.

Try installing Linux with
Windows 10 nowhere near the machine.


Linux is like a Chrysler car; if it is anywhere near something better,
it breaks down and leaves you stranded on the highway.

And when you do, install Linux Mint
Mate and then get back to us with your stereotypes, biases and ignorance.


The typical answer of a Linux loser: you chose the wrong one of our
hundreds of distributions. #371 is the right one.

BTW, Windows 10 is more of a store than an operating system. Be prepared
to pay rent soon.


We'll see. If that happens, I'd still rather pay whatever Microsoft asks.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.

Slimer February 17th 16 06:35 PM

ReactOS
 
On 2016-02-17 1:29 PM, Yrrah wrote:
Slimer :

I installed Linux two days ago...


Really? Which distro?


Sabayon 16.02. It is one of the few which comes with kernel 4.4 out of
the box.

it ignored my RAID and once installed,
froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working at all after
an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't deserve to be run
in general.


Linux distros are not for mediocre people with mediocre minds who
don't think and don't read manuals, howtos, etc.


I was tested as having a 140 IQ when I was 22. Meanwhile, I am smarter
now than I have ever been in my past. Don't question my intelligence at
refusing to use an operating system which demands that I jump through
hoops just to get it working properly; question yourself for having such
low standards and self-esteem as to accept such mediocrity on your hardware.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.


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