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umwhat[_5_] December 4th 09 08:40 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...

umwhat[_5_] December 4th 09 08:49 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
....a dull title...XP install problem with new hard drive.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"umwhat" wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.
--
...scribble scribble scribble...


umwhat[_5_] December 4th 09 08:49 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
....a dull title...XP install problem with new hard drive.
--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"umwhat" wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.
--
...scribble scribble scribble...


Ken Blake, MVP December 4th 09 08:51 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP December 4th 09 08:51 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

umwhat[_5_] December 4th 09 11:15 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I did not check up on the error message when it happened and forgot the exact
words but it was a short message very similar to ...Windows... or only,
install...can not finish... and the choices to Quit were on the screen. The
bios defaults were not loaded and I suppose a good idea would be to load the
defaults before installing XP and I thought maybe that was the problem.
I can run a diagnostics on the hard drive soon. It is installed a computer I
sold to someone and he has it in his home. Because it booted into Windows ok
and he was in a hurry I let him take it. But the hard drive has a 3 year
warranty and I informed the seller.
I am still interested to find out what the problem may be.

--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
.


umwhat[_5_] December 4th 09 11:15 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I did not check up on the error message when it happened and forgot the exact
words but it was a short message very similar to ...Windows... or only,
install...can not finish... and the choices to Quit were on the screen. The
bios defaults were not loaded and I suppose a good idea would be to load the
defaults before installing XP and I thought maybe that was the problem.
I can run a diagnostics on the hard drive soon. It is installed a computer I
sold to someone and he has it in his home. Because it booted into Windows ok
and he was in a hurry I let him take it. But the hard drive has a 3 year
warranty and I informed the seller.
I am still interested to find out what the problem may be.

--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
.


Tim Meddick December 5th 09 12:26 AM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I doubt whether this error message has anything to do with your hard drive or the
Window's installation problem you had.

It is more likely to do with a rubbish battery.

On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC plugged-in when it's
switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.

When the power that the battery provides goes below a certain level, the data in the
CMOS memory is degraded and you get an error message similar to :

"CMOS Checksum bad / CMOS Battery Failure - Please Replace Battery"...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"umwhat" wrote in message
...
I did not check up on the error message when it happened and forgot the exact
words but it was a short message very similar to ...Windows... or only,
install...can not finish... and the choices to Quit were on the screen. The
bios defaults were not loaded and I suppose a good idea would be to load the
defaults before installing XP and I thought maybe that was the problem.
I can run a diagnostics on the hard drive soon. It is installed a computer I
sold to someone and he has it in his home. Because it booted into Windows ok
and he was in a hurry I let him take it. But the hard drive has a 3 year
warranty and I informed the seller.
I am still interested to find out what the problem may be.

--
...scribble scribble scribble...


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
.



Tim Meddick December 5th 09 12:26 AM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I doubt whether this error message has anything to do with your hard drive or the
Window's installation problem you had.

It is more likely to do with a rubbish battery.

On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC plugged-in when it's
switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.

When the power that the battery provides goes below a certain level, the data in the
CMOS memory is degraded and you get an error message similar to :

"CMOS Checksum bad / CMOS Battery Failure - Please Replace Battery"...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"umwhat" wrote in message
...
I did not check up on the error message when it happened and forgot the exact
words but it was a short message very similar to ...Windows... or only,
install...can not finish... and the choices to Quit were on the screen. The
bios defaults were not loaded and I suppose a good idea would be to load the
defaults before installing XP and I thought maybe that was the problem.
I can run a diagnostics on the hard drive soon. It is installed a computer I
sold to someone and he has it in his home. Because it booted into Windows ok
and he was in a hurry I let him take it. But the hard drive has a 3 year
warranty and I informed the seller.
I am still interested to find out what the problem may be.

--
...scribble scribble scribble...


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0800, umwhat
wrote:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.



Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
.



glee December 7th 09 02:51 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


glee December 7th 09 02:51 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


J. P. Gilliver (John) December 8th 09 01:45 AM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
In message , glee
writes:
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.


I think he meant keeping the supply in its standby mode to preserve the
settings (I think he just meant "supplying" when he said "charging").

I don't think the usual cell (a CR2032 in most desktop mobos) should be
charged at all - it's a primary lithium cell, and they mostly definitely
shouldn't be charged - that can be quite unsafe.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)


Yes, "while" or "after" would have made it clearer which he meant. But
we in UK and you in USA often speak a different language! (Well, we
speak several variants in various parts of the UK, possibly even more
than around the USA.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Reality and talent shows lack honesty. They manipulate the viewer with mawkish
stories. Contestants turn tragedies into qualifications. - Sean Lock, in Radio
Times, 20-26 June 2009

J. P. Gilliver (John) December 8th 09 01:45 AM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
In message , glee
writes:
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.


I think he meant keeping the supply in its standby mode to preserve the
settings (I think he just meant "supplying" when he said "charging").

I don't think the usual cell (a CR2032 in most desktop mobos) should be
charged at all - it's a primary lithium cell, and they mostly definitely
shouldn't be charged - that can be quite unsafe.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)


Yes, "while" or "after" would have made it clearer which he meant. But
we in UK and you in USA often speak a different language! (Well, we
speak several variants in various parts of the UK, possibly even more
than around the USA.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Reality and talent shows lack honesty. They manipulate the viewer with mawkish
stories. Contestants turn tragedies into qualifications. - Sean Lock, in Radio
Times, 20-26 June 2009

Tim Meddick December 8th 09 05:36 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"glee" wrote in message
...
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/



Tim Meddick December 8th 09 05:36 PM

Model: WD5000AADS
 
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"glee" wrote in message
...
"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip


I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/




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