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David E. Ross[_2_] April 17th 18 01:48 AM

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How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

First you say you do, and then you don't.
And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
From a 1950s song
That should be Donald Trump's theme song. He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
policy or marriage.

Good Guy[_2_] April 17th 18 01:52 AM

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On 17/04/2018 01:48, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

Russians must have attacked your machine. They know your intelligence
is below average so they decided to take their chance and they succeeded!!

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by
Windows Defender software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/



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Paul in Houston TX[_2_] April 17th 18 02:20 AM

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David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.


Most of my cheap mass produced switches lasted about 2-3 years.
I threw out a box of defective ones last year.
I've never had one just quit, they just get more flakey as time goes on.

My current TP-Link 8970 is still going at 4 years but I took the top cover
off when I got it, glued a large heat sink onto the main chip, and hung the
rest of it on the wall. I've never had one just quit, they seem to get more
flakey as time goes on.

The industrial ones that we install are still going strong after 10-15 years
in the hot, damp, freezing, bugs, lightning, etc, but they are mostly 100 mbit
and far beyond my price range.


Bob_S[_2_] April 17th 18 02:56 AM

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"David E. Ross" wrote in message ...

How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.


Other have answered how long. The question is - why did you have to reboot
it?

A voltage spike could have corrupted your firmware. Go to the manufacturers
site and download and install the latest firmware for that model.

You *should* do a factory reset before installing new firmware so be sure
you know what the manufactures default username, password and the IP address
so you can login.

Notice I said should but first try doing a firmware update without resetting
or doing a factory reset. Be sure to make a backup of your present settings
so they can be imported again if the firmware update blows away your
existing settings.

Then if that doesn't work, fallback to doing the factory reset, upload the
new firmware and then make any changes you need (username, password, SSID,
security settings) or try importing the old settings from the backup.

Strange as it may sound, some routers will not import settings that you made
a backup of after doing a firmware update. Asus routers are known for this
and a few models of LinkSys. They state it's due to security updates within
the firmware update that prevents importing saved settings so be prepared to
reenter them manually.


--


Bob S.


Paul[_32_] April 17th 18 03:48 AM

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David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.


Sometimes, it's the wall adapter.

Paul

Sjouke Burry[_2_] April 17th 18 05:07 AM

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On 17-4-2018 2:48, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

My first router lasted 12 years. A Speed Touch it was called.

Paul[_32_] April 17th 18 06:31 AM

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Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 17-4-2018 2:48, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

My first router lasted 12 years. A Speed Touch it was called.


Some examples here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedTouch

In the picture of the opened up one, you can see some electrolytic
caps. You can see five big ones and two small ones. Those are the
kinds of things you inspect for leaking or orange stains on top.

That particular one is weird, in that the wall adapter creates
a voltage that is higher than the thing needs, then it goes to
all the trouble of having those internal power circuits on the
left. In effect, it's doubly regulated.

Paul

J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_] April 17th 18 09:42 AM

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In message , David E. Ross
writes:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

It's pot luck. My dynamode R-ADSL-C4-W-G1 was the cheapest with wifi
that I could find, and I bought it when the default router supplied by
my ISP was a _non_-wireless one, however long ago that was. It has been
on power since less than a year after I bought it, and has given little
trouble: I do have to reboot it occasionally, but rarely enough that I
don't consider it a problem. I have obtained another router (of a
different model0 in case it ever fails, but it shows no signs of doing
so ATM.
--
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them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for
science intact. - Carl Sagan (interview w. Psychology Today published '96-1-1)

Art Todesco April 17th 18 01:11 PM

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On 4/16/2018 8:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

When you say router, do you mean DSL or Cable / router? My DSL / router
had to be rebooted several time yesterday and the day before ... not
because of the router itself, but because something upstream went down.
If I would have waited, it would have recovered itself, but a reboot
gets service back much faster. Also, and most importantly, my
DSL/router will not route when DSL goes down. So, you can't even get
from one computer to another during a DSL hiccup or outage. What a
great design! And my guess is that others suffer similar problems.

sticks April 17th 18 02:12 PM

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On 4/16/2018 7:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.


My experience has been warranty length plus 1 day. 8-)


David E. Ross[_2_] April 17th 18 03:49 PM

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On 4/17/2018 5:11 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 4/16/2018 8:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

When you say router, do you mean DSL or Cable / router? My DSL / router
had to be rebooted several time yesterday and the day before ... not
because of the router itself, but because something upstream went down.
If I would have waited, it would have recovered itself, but a reboot
gets service back much faster. Also, and most importantly, my
DSL/router will not route when DSL goes down. So, you can't even get
from one computer to another during a DSL hiccup or outage. What a
great design! And my guess is that others suffer similar problems.


All that seems to describe a modem, not a router. Once you get a
connection to the Internet via a modem, a LAN's router should not care
how that connection was obtained.

See my http://www.rossde.com/computer/LAN.html.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

First you say you do, and then you don't.
And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
From a 1950s song
That should be Donald Trump's theme song. He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
policy or marriage.

Ken Blake[_5_] April 17th 18 03:55 PM

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:48:12 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.




The answer is "it depends." My current router is a Netgear, and it's
been working here for 13 years.


Ken Blake[_5_] April 17th 18 03:59 PM

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:11:25 -0400, Art Todesco
wrote:

On 4/16/2018 8:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

When you say router, do you mean DSL or Cable / router? My DSL / router
had to be rebooted several time yesterday and the day before ... not




You are not talking about a router, but about a device that's a
combination of a router and a "modem." Although it's possible that he
meant something similar to what you have, he asked about a router.

Personally I use separate devices: a router and a modem. Whether
router/modem, printer/scanner, or anything else, I always prefer to
avoid combination devices, since if one part fails, you need to
replace both.

Ken Blake[_5_] April 17th 18 04:02 PM

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:55:06 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:48:12 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.




The answer is "it depends." My current router is a Netgear, and it's
been working here for 13 years.



Sorry, my mistake. My router is a D-Link, not a Netgear--a DIR-655.


Ken Blake[_5_] April 17th 18 04:13 PM

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:49:49 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 4/17/2018 5:11 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 4/16/2018 8:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
How long should a router last? Mine is over two years old. Twice
today, I had to reboot it in order to access any Web pages.

When you say router, do you mean DSL or Cable / router? My DSL / router
had to be rebooted several time yesterday and the day before ... not
because of the router itself, but because something upstream went down.
If I would have waited, it would have recovered itself, but a reboot
gets service back much faster. Also, and most importantly, my
DSL/router will not route when DSL goes down. So, you can't even get
from one computer to another during a DSL hiccup or outage. What a
great design! And my guess is that others suffer similar problems.


All that seems to describe a modem, not a router.



As I said in another message moments ago, he was talking about a
device that's a combination of a router and modem.


Once you get a
connection to the Internet via a modem, a LAN's router should not care
how that connection was obtained.



Right.


See my http://www.rossde.com/computer/LAN.html.



Almost identical to my setup here, except for my having three devices
you apparently don't--a scanner connected to my computer, a second
printer connected to my wife's computer, and a VoIP device connected
to the router.

One other difference: Besides my router being connected to both
computers via ethernet cables, it also has Wi-Fi capability. So I also
connect to the internet on my smart phone via the router.


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