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lel October 31st 07 07:04 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a time, so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using cntrl, alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7 1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel

Richard in AZ October 31st 07 08:13 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
Have your tried the System Restore to a date before the problem?

"lel" wrote in message ...

My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from
switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it
takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a time,
so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using cntrl,
alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7
1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any
threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that
took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not
sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel




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lel




Gerry October 31st 07 09:41 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in
the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

lel wrote:
My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from
switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it
takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a
time, so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using
cntrl, alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7
1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any
threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that
took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not
sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel




Ka2H October 31st 07 09:52 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
"lel" wrote:


My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from
switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it
takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a time,
so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using cntrl,
alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7
1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any
threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that
took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not
sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel


Any change when "started" in Safe Mode?

Ka2H

Ron Hardin November 1st 07 12:03 AM

PC takes hour to load
 
You might boot diagnostics, particularly the
temperature sensor tests, and see if it thinks
something is overheating. It might be slowing
down the processor or turning off the cache to
cool it down.

The Dell Inspiron 6400 had this trouble when it
got UNDER about 55 degrees F, and it went really
really slow after that. A BIOS revision fixed
it. 50 degrees F was reported as 255 degrees C.

Recent cool weather might have provoked something
like that.

--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

lel November 1st 07 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ka2H (Post 3002630)
"lel" wrote:


My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from
switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it
takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a time,
so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using cntrl,
alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7
1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any
threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that
took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not
sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel


Any change when "started" in Safe Mode?

Ka2H


I have tried starting in safe mode, but it goes through a list of files, then stops. I have been running a defrag today, took 5 hours, and has just finished. PC then froze so had to re boot, and its just re loaded now.
This is my daughters comp, and other day she ran disk clean up utility, it took ages and seems the problem has been since then.
I cant restore from a previous date as when i looked the fire wall was turned off and no restore points are available.
If it isnt a virus would i be able to somehow clear it all off and re load xp from disc? do you think this is an option, and if so do you think its easy enough to perform?
many thanks for your help
Lel

Unknown November 1st 07 05:29 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
Run disk cleanup and then defrag again.
"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
You might boot diagnostics, particularly the
temperature sensor tests, and see if it thinks
something is overheating. It might be slowing
down the processor or turning off the cache to
cool it down.

The Dell Inspiron 6400 had this trouble when it
got UNDER about 55 degrees F, and it went really
really slow after that. A BIOS revision fixed
it. 50 degrees F was reported as 255 degrees C.

Recent cool weather might have provoked something
like that.

--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.




Daave November 1st 07 09:11 PM

PC takes hour to load
 
lel wrote:
My pc has suddenly started to go really slow. It takes 50 minutes from
switch on to get to desktop. When I click on something on desktop it
takes approx 5 miutes to open, and I can only open one thing at a
time, so i have to choose carefully, as they wont close without using
cntrl, alt, del.
I tried to run anti virus today but it was going so slowly it took 7
1/2 hours, then I stopped it, but up till then it hadnt found any
threats.
I tried to do disc clean up, to delete temp files etc, but even that
took 1 1/2 hours before crashing.
Free space is 71%
I havent installed anything before this started happening, and Im not
sure what I can do to find any cause.
I would be very greatful for any advise.
Thanks
Lel


Sounds like a hardware problem. See "Hardware Troubleshooting" at:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html



Ka2H November 2nd 07 12:13 AM

PC takes hour to load
 
"lel" wrote:

I have tried starting in safe mode, but it goes through a list of
files, then stops. I have been running a defrag today, took 5 hours,
and has just finished. PC then froze so had to re boot, and its just re
loaded now.
This is my daughters comp, and other day she ran disk clean up utility,



Was this the Windows Disk Cleanup Utility, if so - which boxes was checked
for being "cleaned", or was it any other kind of "cleaner"?


it took ages and seems the problem has been since then.
I cant restore from a previous date as when i looked the fire wall was
turned off and no restore points are available.



I'm not sure I see the connection firewall / no available System Restore
point, however do I assume you verified the lack by clicking Start, point to
All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools, and then System
Restore.


If it isnt a virus would i be able to somehow clear it all off and re
load xp from disc? do you think this is an option, and if so do you
think its easy enough to perform?
many thanks for your help
Lel


Clean Install, Repair Install etc as such have their more-or-less-easy
procedures to follow, however are side effects like loss of data,
re-installation of drivers, SP2 with updates etc another story. So it might
not be the first step to take, at least not before having assessed the way
the disk clean up was performed, in case this is the cause of the problem.

Some articles you may find being of interest:

"How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341/en-us

"Perform a Repair Installation":
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ps/doug92.mspx

"How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install":
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

"How to install or upgrade to Windows XP":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316941/en-us

Regards,
Ka2H

Ka2H November 2nd 07 11:16 AM

PC takes hour to load
 
"lel" wrote:

This is my daughters comp, and other day she ran disk clean up utility,
it took ages and seems the problem has been since then.



If it isnt a virus would i be able to somehow clear it all off


Some more thoughts:

Was the disk clean up performed as a part of regular "maintenance", or as an
attempt to resolve a problem arisen before the action?

If the latter is the case, could virus/adware be the reason for the disk
clean up?

In case you feel that the computer is not infested (otherwise priority one
is to clean the PC), you may check (and report) the Windows Manager
(ctrl+alt+del):
- CPU usage (Performance Tab). When high, go to Processes and note any with
high CPU workload.
- Commit Charge (Performance Tab) what are the current values for Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

Verify RAM installed (Start\Run msinfo32.exe) versus in use (My Computer,
rightclick Properties, lower righthand corner of General?).

A tool to scan protected system files and replace incorrect versions (given
the computer is not infested): "Description of Windows XP and Windows Server
2003 System File Checker (Sfc.exe)":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747/en-us

Regards,
Ka2H

lel November 2nd 07 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ka2H (Post 3003248)
"lel" wrote:

I have tried starting in safe mode, but it goes through a list of
files, then stops. I have been running a defrag today, took 5 hours,
and has just finished. PC then froze so had to re boot, and its just re
loaded now.
This is my daughters comp, and other day she ran disk clean up utility,



Was this the Windows Disk Cleanup Utility, if so - which boxes was checked
for being "cleaned", or was it any other kind of "cleaner"?

This was the windows dickcleanup utility. Boxes checked were all, including temp int files, downloaded files, recycle bin, compress old files, Im sorry I cant remeber which ones come up, as cant use the comp as its too slow and on vista at the mo.
It did take ages and ages to generate list and then to perform once confirmed.


it took ages and seems the problem has been since then.
I cant restore from a previous date as when i looked the fire wall was
turned off and no restore points are available.



I'm not sure I see the connection firewall / no available System Restore
point, however do I assume you verified the lack by clicking Start, point to
All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools, and then System
Restore.

Yes i went through the correct process, to system restore and no restore points available.


If it isnt a virus would i be able to somehow clear it all off and re
load xp from disc? do you think this is an option, and if so do you
think its easy enough to perform?
many thanks for your help
Lel


Clean Install, Repair Install etc as such have their more-or-less-easy
procedures to follow, however are side effects like loss of data,
re-installation of drivers, SP2 with updates etc another story. So it might
not be the first step to take, at least not before having assessed the way
the disk clean up was performed, in case this is the cause of the problem.

Some articles you may find being of interest:

"How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341/en-us

"Perform a Repair Installation":
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ps/doug92.mspx

"How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install":
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

"How to install or upgrade to Windows XP":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316941/en-us

Regards,
Ka2H

Thank you for your continued support. Lel

lel November 2nd 07 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lel (Post 3003432)
Thank you for your continued support. Lel

Originally Posted by Ka2H
Hi Ka2H

('Was this the Windows Disk Cleanup Utility, if so - which boxes was checked
for being "cleaned", or was it any other kind of "cleaner"?')

This was the windows dickcleanup utility. Boxes checked were all, including temp int files, downloaded files, recycle bin, compress old files, Im sorry I cant remeber which ones come up, as cant use the comp as its too slow and on vista at the mo.
It did take ages and ages to generate list and then to perform once confirmed.

('I'm not sure I see the connection firewall / no available System Restore
point, however do I assume you verified the lack by clicking Start, point to
All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools, and then System
Restore. ')

Yes i went through the correct process, to system restore and no restore points available.

Thank you for your continued support.
Lel

lel November 2nd 07 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ka2H (Post 3003437)
"lel" wrote:

This is my daughters comp, and other day she ran disk clean up utility,
it took ages and seems the problem has been since then.



If it isnt a virus would i be able to somehow clear it all off


('Some more thoughts:

Was the disk clean up performed as a part of regular "maintenance", or as an
attempt to resolve a problem arisen before the action?')

It was just being run as regular maintenance as it had not been run on pc before.

('If the latter is the case, could virus/adware be the reason for the disk
clean up?')

I did run anti virus afterwards but by thisw time the pc was on its real go slow and it wasnt finished after 7 1/2 hours, so I stopped it.

('In case you feel that the computer is not infested (otherwise priority one
is to clean the PC), you may check (and report) the Windows Manager
(ctrl+alt+del):
- CPU usage (Performance Tab). When high, go to Processes and note any with
high CPU workload.
- Commit Charge (Performance Tab) what are the current values for Total, the
Limit and the Peak?')

Will go switch on now, and report back when i eventually get it to load !

Verify RAM installed (Start\Run msinfo32.exe) versus in use (My Computer,
rightclick Properties, lower righthand corner of General?).

A tool to scan protected system files and replace incorrect versions (given
the computer is not infested): "Description of Windows XP and Windows Server
2003 System File Checker (Sfc.exe)":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747/en-us

Regards,
Ka2H


Many Thanks Lel

lel November 2nd 07 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lel (Post 3003548)
Many Thanks Lel

Could compress old files in disk cleanup have anything to do with problem?

lel November 2nd 07 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ka2H (Post 3003437)
"lel" wrote:
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Some more thoughts:

Was the disk clean up performed as a part of regular "maintenance", or as an
attempt to resolve a problem arisen before the action?

If the latter is the case, could virus/adware be the reason for the disk
clean up?

In case you feel that the computer is not infested (otherwise priority one
is to clean the PC), you may check (and report) the Windows Manager
(ctrl+alt+del):
- CPU usage (Performance Tab). When high, go to Processes and note any with
high CPU workload.
- Commit Charge (Performance Tab) what are the current values for Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

Verify RAM installed (Start\Run msinfo32.exe) versus in use (My Computer,
rightclick Properties, lower righthand corner of General?).

A tool to scan protected system files and replace incorrect versions (given
the computer is not infested): "Description of Windows XP and Windows Server
2003 System File Checker (Sfc.exe)":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310747/en-us

Regards,
Ka2H


Hi Ka2H
CPU usage is minimal, most progs on 00 except system idle (even when trying to load pages) this varied between 77 and 98

Then I got error on screen
'System has recovered from a serious error and will need to close..... technical info
C:\DOCUMENT~1\rebecca\locals~1\temp\WER67CoDir00\m ini110207.01dmp
also temp\WER6700dr00\sysdata.xml

My comp properties
868 Mhz, 512MB of RAM

Sorry to keep bugging, hope above makes some sense.
Thanks Lel


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