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On 4/21/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:03:14 -0400, Allen Drake
wrote:


I don't own a household vacuum cleaner that uses bags.Right or wrong
for some reason I figured the new bagless ones were better.



I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

When it fills up, you are supposed to throw away the old vacuum
cleaner and get a new one.

It's similar to cars in the old days when they had ashtrays.

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:56:24 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 4/21/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:03:14 -0400, Allen Drake
wrote:


I don't own a household vacuum cleaner that uses bags.Right or wrong
for some reason I figured the new bagless ones were better.



I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

When it fills up, you are supposed to throw away the old vacuum
cleaner and get a new one.

It's similar to cars in the old days when they had ashtrays.


LOL!

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:37 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

On mine, unlock the dirt holder, pull it out, empty it, maybe
wash it, put it back, lock it. This is less trouble than opening up a
vacuum cleaner to get at the bag. And you are never short a bag!

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:00:25 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:37 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

On mine, unlock the dirt holder, pull it out, empty it, maybe
wash it, put it back, lock it. This is less trouble than opening up a
vacuum cleaner to get at the bag. And you are never short a bag!



I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:15:16 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

Both bag and bagless types can result in some dust getting into
the air when getting rid of the dirt, but it is not much, especially
if you move slowly.

I like not having to hassle about bags.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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"Gene Wirchenko" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:15:16 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

Both bag and bagless types can result in some dust getting into
the air when getting rid of the dirt, but it is not much, especially
if you move slowly.

I like not having to hassle about bags.

My house has a central vac and it uses bags (they are huge bags). I also
have a bagless vac. And I have some shop vacs while I never heard of a
shop vac that uses bags. Although most shop vacs can suck up water too.
I used one once to drain a 500 gallon outdoor pond once. That probably
wasn't a good idea, but it worked. I probably should have used a sump
pump. ;-)

--
Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 1.5GB - Windows 8 CP

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On 4/23/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:00:25 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:37 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

On mine, unlock the dirt holder, pull it out, empty it, maybe
wash it, put it back, lock it. This is less trouble than opening up a
vacuum cleaner to get at the bag. And you are never short a bag!



I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

I wonder if searching in Google or YouTube would turn up a video of
that. Sillier things have been posted :-)

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:31:37 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 4/23/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:00:25 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:37 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

On mine, unlock the dirt holder, pull it out, empty it, maybe
wash it, put it back, lock it. This is less trouble than opening up a
vacuum cleaner to get at the bag. And you are never short a bag!



I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

I wonder if searching in Google or YouTube would turn up a video of
that. Sillier things have been posted :-)


I just did a quick search. All I found was ads.

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On 4/23/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:31:37 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 4/23/2012, Ken Blake posted:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:00:25 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:03:37 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

I've often seen ads for vacuum cleaners in which the seller proudly
states that they are bagless. I've never understood that pride. To me,
it seems that not having a bag that you can throw away with the
collected dirt means that emptying the vacuum cleaner is far dirtier
and more troublesome.

What am I missing?

On mine, unlock the dirt holder, pull it out, empty it, maybe
wash it, put it back, lock it. This is less trouble than opening up a
vacuum cleaner to get at the bag. And you are never short a bag!



I remember the old pre-bag bagless machines, which were very messy and
troublesome to empty, but I've never seen one of the newer ones being
emptied. It's hard for me to imagine its being less trouble than
opening the vacuum cleaner to get at the bag, but if you say so, you
must be right. I guess I need to see one in action.

I wonder if searching in Google or YouTube would turn up a video of
that. Sillier things have been posted :-)


I just did a quick search. All I found was ads.

OK, maybe we can get one of the posters in this subthread to volunteer
to record the operation and post it on YouTube :-)

Now I'm wondering if one of the manufacturers has a video. E.g., I have
seen a video of how to clean a stove-top vent fan assembly. Which, BTW,
helped convince us not to upgrade our stove-top vent :-)

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It's a black and Decker home air compressor i don't know the model off hand
but it plugs in to 120VAC house current.
it works well i just use the air adaptor for beach balls ect. works well.


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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:09:53 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

My solution for packed hair ect is a small air nozzle on my air
compressor.
done properly it does no damage and gets rid of the build up.

What size and make is your compressor. I was thinking of attaching
connections to an air ball to use a nozzle. I'd have to cut off that
tire inflating end first obviously.

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:20:53 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

It's a black and Decker home air compressor i don't know the model off hand
but it plugs in to 120VAC house current.
it works well i just use the air adaptor for beach balls ect. works well.

Ok, now I know what you mean. Thanks.

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You can also use a vacuum with the hose in the exhaust port i know the older
units can do this but alot of the new ones cant.
just peaceful how close you put the air stream to delicate parts.
and don't let the vacuum run to long so the air does not get to hot.


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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:20:53 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

It's a black and Decker home air compressor i don't know the model off
hand
but it plugs in to 120VAC house current.
it works well i just use the air adaptor for beach balls ect. works well.

Ok, now I know what you mean. Thanks.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:29:49 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

You can also use a vacuum with the hose in the exhaust port i know the older
units can do this but alot of the new ones cant.
just peaceful how close you put the air stream to delicate parts.
and don't let the vacuum run to long so the air does not get to hot.

I would be concerned about dirt or at least dust blowing back out. I
plan on using an air ball as soon as I get around to attaching the
fittings. I know of one place where I used to work that uses
compressed Nitrogen to make sure there was no oil or water
contamination. but I don't plan on going to those extremes.

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I take my bag out first then let it run a min or so to make sure have never
had a problem yet:)


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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:29:49 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

You can also use a vacuum with the hose in the exhaust port i know the
older
units can do this but alot of the new ones cant.
just peaceful how close you put the air stream to delicate parts.
and don't let the vacuum run to long so the air does not get to hot.

I would be concerned about dirt or at least dust blowing back out. I
plan on using an air ball as soon as I get around to attaching the
fittings. I know of one place where I used to work that uses
compressed Nitrogen to make sure there was no oil or water
contamination. but I don't plan on going to those extremes.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:11:30 -0400, Leon Manfredi
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:39:02 -0400, Allen Drake wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:29:49 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

You can also use a vacuum with the hose in the exhaust port i know the older
units can do this but alot of the new ones cant.
just peaceful how close you put the air stream to delicate parts.
and don't let the vacuum run to long so the air does not get to hot.

I would be concerned about dirt or at least dust blowing back out. I
plan on using an air ball as soon as I get around to attaching the
fittings. I know of one place where I used to work that uses
compressed Nitrogen to make sure there was no oil or water
contamination. but I don't plan on going to those extremes.

There are specially made miniature commuter vacuum attachments, similar to ones
regular vacuum cleaner, that will fit onto your vacuum hose fitting with air
intake controls to reduce intake flow to suit.

I guess I have always known that so it's about time I made that
purchase. Thanks for reminding me.