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hiding extensions by default
In message , Paul
writes: [] Microsoft really shouldn't hide the extensions by default. Paul And we've been saying this since at least '9x. Has there been any indication of them changing this default - maybe in Windows 10.xxx? (I know they've said 10 is the "last" Windows; in practice, therefore, future versions will be 10.9.9.9....) The original _reason_ for hiding extensions (even having the _option_ to do so) - presumably to avoid confusing the poor dumb users - was mostly superseded when malware started to use double extensions, and isn't really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I'm a self-made man, thereby demonstrating once again the perils of unskilled labor..." - Harlan Ellison |
hiding extensions by default
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| Has there been any indication of them changing this default - maybe in | Windows 10.xxx? (I know they've said 10 is the "last" Windows; in | practice, therefore, future versions will be 10.9.9.9....) | Unless Apple gets over their "X" fetish. Then Microsoft will probably ape them and come out with something like Windows Beyond. (Remember, you heard it here first. :) | isn't | really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby | "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. That drives me crazy. For me that's a classic example of why I avoid moving to Win7 for most things. They just keep adding more training wheels. It takes more and more work to remove those training wheels. And in some cases it's just not doable. The result is interrupted productivity, like trying to make coffee while wearing a helmet and fireproof gloves. |
hiding extensions by default
In message , Mayayana
writes: [] | isn't | really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby | "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. That drives me crazy. For me that's a classic example of why I avoid moving to Win7 for most things. They just keep adding more training wheels. It takes more and more work to remove those training wheels. And in some cases it's just not doable. The result is interrupted productivity, like trying to make coffee while wearing a helmet and fireproof gloves. I know what you mean, and agree in most cases (I turn a lot of them off where I can); however, I thought the rename-not-highlighting-the-extension-by-default was actually a _good_ one. When changing the name of a file, I rarely want to change the extension, and had previously found (and still find of course, as my main machine is XP) it tedious having to either retype the extension or move the cursor first. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" - Jean Kerr |
hiding extensions by default
On 11/26/2017 3:45 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes: [] Microsoft really shouldn't hide the extensions by default. Paul And we've been saying this since at least '9x. Has there been any indication of them changing this default - maybe in Windows 10.xxx? (I know they've said 10 is the "last" Windows; in practice, therefore, future versions will be 10.9.9.9....) The original _reason_ for hiding extensions (even having the _option_ to do so) - presumably to avoid confusing the poor dumb users - was mostly superseded when malware started to use double extensions, and isn't really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. Has anyone been able to change that default in Windows 7 so that Rename includes the extension when hightlighting the file name? More often than not, that is what I want because I often want to copy the complete file name for use in text, in a search, or other such purpose without actually changing the name. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Am I the only one who noticed the following? * President Trump issued executive orders that increase health-care costs. * The Republicans in Congress propose to eliminate itemized deductions for health-care costs. |
hiding extensions by default
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 08:02:23 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:
Has anyone been able to change that default in Windows 7 so that Rename includes the extension when hightlighting the file name? More often than not, that is what I want because I often want to copy the complete file name for use in text, in a search, or other such purpose without actually changing the name. To copy the complete file name, include the "press Ctrl+A" below. Right-click Rename press Ctrl+A press Ctrl+C -- Cheers Ralph Fox |
hiding extensions by default
On 11/26/2017 05:45 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[snip] The original _reason_ for hiding extensions (even having the _option_ to do so) - presumably to avoid confusing the poor dumb users - was mostly superseded when malware started to use double extensions, It's multiple dots. A file has one and only one extension. "file.txt.exe" is NOT a text file. Windows knows that even if it lies to you in a directory window or open dialog. and isn't really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. -- 29 days until the winter celebration (Monday December 25, 2017 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Send me money, send me green, Heaven you will meet, Make a contribution and you'll get a better seat..." [Metallica] |
hiding extensions by default
"Ralph Fox" wrote
| To copy the complete file name, include the "press Ctrl+A" below. | | Right-click Rename press Ctrl+A press Ctrl+C | I'm not certain, but it seems to me it was easier than that. I think a double right-click selects it all. Either way, it's an extra step that some of us find inefficient. |
hiding extensions by default
In message , Mark Lloyd
writes: On 11/26/2017 05:45 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [snip] The original _reason_ for hiding extensions (even having the _option_ to do so) - presumably to avoid confusing the poor dumb users - was mostly superseded when malware started to use double extensions, It's multiple dots. A file has one and only one extension. "file.txt.exe" is NOT a text file. Windows knows that even if it lies to you in a directory window or open dialog. You know that, and I know that, but you know what I meant (-: and isn't really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If vegetarians eat vegetables,..beware of humanitarians! |
hiding extensions by default
On 11/26/2017 9:39 AM, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 08:02:23 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: Has anyone been able to change that default in Windows 7 so that Rename includes the extension when hightlighting the file name? More often than not, that is what I want because I often want to copy the complete file name for use in text, in a search, or other such purpose without actually changing the name. To copy the complete file name, include the "press Ctrl+A" below. Right-click Rename press Ctrl+A press Ctrl+C No. While in Rename, Ctrl-A has no effect. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Am I the only one who noticed the following? * President Trump issued executive orders that increase health-care costs. * The Republicans in Congress propose to eliminate itemized deductions for health-care costs. |
hiding extensions by default
"David E. Ross" wrote in news:ovfhau$hn3$1
@news.albasani.net: On 11/26/2017 9:39 AM, Ralph Fox wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 08:02:23 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: Has anyone been able to change that default in Windows 7 so that Rename includes the extension when hightlighting the file name? More often than not, that is what I want because I often want to copy the complete file name for use in text, in a search, or other such purpose without actually changing the name. To copy the complete file name, include the "press Ctrl+A" below. Right-click Rename press Ctrl+A press Ctrl+C No. While in Rename, Ctrl-A has no effect. That's odd. On my Windows 7 machine, it's works as advertised. While in Rename, Ctrl-A selects the entire file name, including the extension. I actually like the default action to not include the extension, When I move pictures from my phone to my computer, I give them a descriptive name, and of course I do not want to change the extension. But, we all have our own methods. |
hiding extensions by default
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 11:45:06 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Paul writes: [] Microsoft really shouldn't hide the extensions by default. Paul And we've been saying this since at least '9x. Has there been any indication of them changing this default - maybe in Windows 10.xxx? (I know they've said 10 is the "last" Windows; in practice, therefore, future versions will be 10.9.9.9....) The original _reason_ for hiding extensions (even having the _option_ to do so) - presumably to avoid confusing the poor dumb users - was mostly superseded when malware started to use double extensions, and isn't really valid since they introduced the change in (I think) 7 whereby "rename" defaults to no longer highlighting the extension. I always thought that hiding extensions was stupid too. But I do wish MS would allow hiding by filename. Those goddamn "System Volume Information" files annoy the f**k out of me and appear on every partition, every flash drive, and where ever else MS can shove them. I DO NOT use that drive wasting crap anyhow, and have it disabled everywhere. But I still got to see that clutter on everything..... Since it's disabled, I'd think they would either not create them, or at least give us a way to hide them. Hiding the Recycle Bin would be useful too. Again, I dont use it. When I delete something, I want it GONE.... |
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hiding extensions by default
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Mark Lloyd writes: It's multiple dots. A file has one and only one extension. "file.txt.exe" is NOT a text file. Windows knows that even if it lies to you in a directory window or open dialog. You know that, and I know that, but you know what I meant (-: That would be classed as a "land mine". There are ways to encode with "." but that's not a good example. Here are some examples. 1) "Isolation" (you read these from right-to-left) dangerous_virus.exe == dangerous_virus.exe.txt That's the practice of "de-elevation", preventing a dangerous thing from being triggered by accident by double-clicking. Due to the logic the OS uses, it will open in a text editor. nifty_shellex.reg == nifty_shellex.reg.txt While a registry file (which is a text file) shouldn't merge into the Registry all on its own, I'm using the text extension there, so there is absolutely no possibility of that happening. 2) "Encoding" (you read these from left to right to understand them) something.tar.gz.7z This hints that some item has been processed several times. Reading from left to right, first "Tape Archive" was used, then "GZIP Compressor", then "7ZIP Compressor". The Tape Archive step implies a folder, if the Tape Archive step is being used for a valid reason. We can guess then, that "something" just might be a folder. So it's an encoded folder that's been through three steps of processing. The "file.txt.exe" example is "elevation", something you don't generally do on purpose. Say for example, you just wrote your own reg file and stored it (for some strange reason) as a text file. TakeOwn.txt and then wanted it to be recognized as a registry file to be merged TakeOwn.txt.reg Well, it would be just as sensible to remove all doubt and make it TakeOwn.reg leaving no doubt as to its purpose. The "TakeOwn.txt.reg" is attempting elevation, a bad practice, and not something your built-in parser will appreciate later. 3) And while you can use dots for delineation, this isn't really a good formulation. You don't want to force people to parse this for danger. AdobeFlash.23.0.0.171.exe Now, that one isn't bad, since numeric fields won't get confused as file types. Whereas this is just terrible. Ive.been.working.on.the.railroad.xls You can make ones like this a little clearer by using some other punctuation scheme. Ive_been_working_on_the_railroad.xls Ive-been-working-on-the-railroad.xls And when picking characters, be careful not to select punctuation which is not "cross-platform". Even though you think today, your file is never leaving the PC, ten minutes from now you're uploading it onto your Android and "someting bwoke" because of your poor hygiene practices when selecting punctuation characters. ******* As for the land mine in the example "file.txt.exe" the system loader will attempt to look for signature symbols of various sorts in the file, and seeing that they don't exist, it'll throw an appropriate error if you double-click on that. But there are other cases where you were attempting elevation via extension, where the outcome might not be all that you expected. I can't think of too many cases, where I've added ".exe" to the end of something for "fun" :-) And leaving file extensions viewable, makes parsing monstrosities like these, easier. Paul |
hiding extensions by default
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:05:01 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote: On 11/26/2017 9:39 AM, Ralph Fox wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 08:02:23 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: Has anyone been able to change that default in Windows 7 so that Rename includes the extension when hightlighting the file name? More often than not, that is what I want because I often want to copy the complete file name for use in text, in a search, or other such purpose without actually changing the name. To copy the complete file name, include the "press Ctrl+A" below. Right-click Rename press Ctrl+A press Ctrl+C No. While in Rename, Ctrl-A has no effect. Strange. For me, it works as expected in 7, 8.1, and 10. -- Char Jackson |
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