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Joe Scotch December 31st 17 03:37 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/

The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

The main three things it does for you over YouTube are
1. No advertisements
2. Extracts audio from video (if you want that)
3. Downloads the video (if you want that)

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?

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John Doe[_8_] December 31st 17 06:40 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
The same spam was posted a few months ago.
There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.

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Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/

The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

The main three things it does for you over YouTube are
1. No advertisements
2. Extracts audio from video (if you want that)
3. Downloads the video (if you want that)

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?

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F-Droid open source code but with added annoyances and ads.




Mr. Man-wai Chang December 31st 17 07:23 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
On 31/12/2017 11:37, Joe Scotch wrote:
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/

The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/


How do you stop in-video advertisement? :)

Does this app know how to do that?

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Andy Burns[_6_] December 31st 17 11:15 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
Joe Scotch wrote:

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone


Yet another nym?


Joe Scotch December 31st 17 03:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
He who is John Doe said on Sun, 31 Dec 2017 06:40:27 -0000 (UTC):

There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.


Does Adblock also block in-video youtube advertisements?

How?

Joe Scotch December 31st 17 03:50 PM

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He who is Mr. Man-wai Chang said on Sun, 31 Dec 2017 15:23:16 +0800:

How do you stop in-video advertisement? :)


This is a *great* question!

I do not know *how* they stop *all* the in-video advertisements but they do
stop them. You can play, play, play, play, play, to your heart's content,
and you will *never* see any in-video advertisements.
https://newpipe.schabi.org

The open-source page on New Pipe says they only use the public YouTube API
so the API must be what is used to play those annoying in-video ads.
https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe

Does this app know how to do that?


Yes. You will *never* see an in-video ad when you use the New Pipe player,
but it's even better than that as New Pipe allows you to use *any* player
you want - and you *still* don't see any in-video ads.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Since they use the youtube public API, there must be a way in the public
api to play those annoying in-video ads - where apparently New Pipe doesn't
do it. The good news is that the New Pipe open source code is constantly
improving - so it should be ready for Windows by now.
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues

The code is open source so if you know how to read code (I don't), you can
see exactly how the New Pipe core extractor works.
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor

Why can't the open-source New Pipe code be compiled for Windows?
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

Joe Scotch December 31st 17 03:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Andy Burns
wrote:

Yet another nym?


Do you know the answer to the questions?

There are two on-topic questions in this thread, where I only ask if you
know the answer to those two questions.

1. Has anyone compiled the open source New Pipe for Windows yet?
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

2. Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6743538/compiling-android-tools-for-windows

Do you (or anyone else) know the answer to both those questions?

Mr. Man-wai Chang December 31st 17 04:51 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 

I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!

Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)

On 31/12/2017 23:50, Joe Scotch wrote:
The open-source page on New Pipe says they only use the public YouTube API
so the API must be what is used to play those annoying in-video ads.
https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe

Does this app know how to do that?


Yes. You will *never* see an in-video ad when you use the New Pipe player,
but it's even better than that as New Pipe allows you to use *any* player
you want - and you *still* don't see any in-video ads.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Since they use the youtube public API, there must be a way in the public
api to play those annoying in-video ads - where apparently New Pipe doesn't
do it. The good news is that the New Pipe open source code is constantly
improving - so it should be ready for Windows by now.
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues



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Mr. Man-wai Chang December 31st 17 04:53 PM

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On 1/1/2018 00:51, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!

Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)


Remember how sponsors announce themselves in Hollywood movies?
Remember those advertisement signs in basketball or soccer matches?
How do you block them? :)

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Mark Lloyd[_2_] December 31st 17 04:55 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
On 12/31/2017 12:40 AM, John Doe wrote:
The same spam was posted a few months ago.
There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.


And that's what I'm doing on Android too. Firefox / Adblock Plus.

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Joe Scotch December 31st 17 05:24 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

Remember how sponsors announce themselves in Hollywood movies?
Remember those advertisement signs in basketball or soccer matches?
How do you block them? :)


Now you're just getting ridiculous.

Your other question is a *great* question, which is how does New Pipe block
what you call 'slipstream' video ads.

Your other cynicism is also valid which is why hasn't Google blocked them
yet, even though New Pipe code is open source and even though New Pipe has
been around for *years*?

I don't know the answer to either of your great questions.

It's also valid that two people here (John Doe & Mark Lloyd) have inferred
that Adblock does everything that New Pipe does which is:
1. Blocks all slipstream video ads
2. Extracts audio from the video and saves it on your computer
3. Extracts the video and saves it on your computer
4. Plays using any video player you want it to play on
5. Searches YouTube videos and plays with the screen off
etc.

The only thing I'm waiting for is confirmation from either John Doe and
Mark Lloyd as to whether Adblock does all that which they imply it does.

Joe Scotch December 31st 17 05:24 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!

Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)


Let's try to stay on topic.

The topic is:
Does anyone know of this slipstream-ad-free functionality on Windows?

[NOTE: Two people implied Adblock blocks those slipstream ads - but nobody
who implied it has answered the direct question yet and they haven't said
how Adblock extracts the audio from the video or how Adblock downloads the
video in its entirety (even if it's 3 hours long).]

Your question is *great* which is *how* New Pipe blocks what you call
slipstream ads.

I don't know how. But they do.

I also get your cynicism that Google could block New Pipe since it directly
competes with YouTube Red features.

However, the fact is that NewPipe is *years* old.

The fact is that if Google wanted to kill them - it wouldn't take years for
Google to block them - would it?

Let's try to stay on topic where I will answer your questions as best I
can.

The on-topic perfectly valid question here is whether or not a New Pipe
functionality exists on Windows yet - and how hard would it be for a coder
to compile the code on Windows since it's all Open Source Code?

Joe Scotch December 31st 17 05:26 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

And that's what I'm doing on Android too. Firefox / Adblock Plus.


This is the second time Adblock has come up, and yet, nobody has answered
the basic questions about Adblock yet.

Both John Doe and Mark Lloyd have implied that AdBlock does what New Pipe
does, which is *great* if it's actually true since New Pipe does a *lot* of
good things.

1. How does Adblock block all in-video (aka slipstream) ads?

Less critically...
2. How does Adblock download the video as a video?
3. How does Adblock extract the audio from the video?

Even less critically:
4. How does AdBlock play the video in *any* video player you want it to?
5. How does AdBlock search all YouTube videos without any web browser?

Mayayana December 31st 17 05:34 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"Joe Scotch" wrote


This is the second time Adblock has come up, and yet, nobody has answered
the basic questions about Adblock yet.


DownloadHelper downloads the videos. No ads.
you can play them as you like and store a copy.
If you want to know how AdBlock Plus works then
why not try it yourself?



Joe Scotch December 31st 17 07:19 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mayayana
wrote:

DownloadHelper downloads the videos. No ads.
you can play them as you like and store a copy.
If you want to know how AdBlock Plus works then
why not try it yourself?


I appreciate that you are trying to stay on topic, which is how to get the
functionality of New Pipe in a single executable on Windows (and not by
multiple methods - none of which do what New Pipe does).

I appreciate your advice on how to download a video but most of the time
I'm streaming the video (because I just want to watch it without what
Man-wai Chang called "slipstream ads").

If I had wanted to *only* download videos, rest assured I know all about
downloading videos, probably better than most people do, but maybe not as
well as you do since you use a browser to do what I'd just use a simple
one-line command to do (so you may know more than I do on how to download
1-hour, 2-hour and 3-hour videos which is what I generally download if I
feel the need.)

On Windows, I download any YouTube video by running this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
Or I extract just the audio with this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}

But most of the time I'm just streaming the video, where you're the *third*
person to imply that AdBlock does that, all by itself, without even a
browser, which is odd becuase that's not what I think AdBlock does.

Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).

AdBlock is not Jesus Christ incarnate - although everyone here seems to
think it is.

In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.

And yet, nobody has answered the simple question which is how AdBlock, all
by itself, removes what Man-wai Chang calls "slipstream" ads from any
YouTube video?

This is a simple question which can be answered by anyone who uses AdBlock
while streaming YouTube videos.

While this thread was never intended to be an AdBlock versus NewPipe
question, since three people intimated that AdBlock does everything that
New Pipe does - the main question is whether Ad Block does the *simplest*
thing that New Pipe does.

It's a simple question, which nobody has answered yet.
And I can't tell from the AdBlock ads! https://youtu.be/9iL8pGHgBjU

In fact, the NYT says AdBlock is designed to *allow* ads???????
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/b...-the-door.html

So I'm forced to ask the 3 people who suggested AdBlock a simple question.
*Does AdBlock block all slipstream ads from inside of videos or not?*

Mayayana December 31st 17 08:52 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"Joe Scotch" wrote


In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.


I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.




Joe Scotch December 31st 17 11:18 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mayayana
wrote:

I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.


Hi Mayayana,

Thanks for the advice.

Ad Block is a completely different tool than New Pipe is, where they're not
in the least similar.

To your point, I'm sure a *combination* of a half dozen Windows tools will
do what New Pipe does all by itself, but that was never the question.

The question is just whether anyone knows of a New Pipe app on Windows, and
if it doesn't yet exist, then how hard would it be for a coder to compile
New Pipe on Windows from the open source code.

Mr. Man-wai Chang January 1st 18 04:45 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
On 1/1/2018 01:24, Joe Scotch wrote:
Let's try to stay on topic.

The topic is:
Does anyone know of this slipstream-ad-free functionality on Windows?

[NOTE: Two people implied Adblock blocks those slipstream ads - but nobody
who implied it has answered the direct question yet and they haven't said
how Adblock extracts the audio from the video or how Adblock downloads the
video in its entirety (even if it's 3 hours long).]


OK, let me find out whether YouTube is being honest by declaring in the
video stream that an advertisement has started. Notice the orange strips
in the video's skip bar.

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M.L.[_2_] January 1st 18 05:48 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 


I appreciate that you are trying to stay on topic, which is how to get the
functionality of New Pipe in a single executable on Windows (and not by
multiple methods - none of which do what New Pipe does).


Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube streaming
without ads, so a New Pipe clone isn't needed for ad blocking. Unlike
Android, Windows has no need for separate adblocking software except
as browser addons.

The completely separate tasks of downloading + mp3 extraction are
handled by browser addons or standalone software. I wouldn't be
surprised if there's a browser addon that can download and extract
from YouTube vids.

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 06:18 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , "M.L."
wrote:

Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube streaming
without ads


This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can download
and extract from YouTube vids.


There's no value to an addon when all that is needed is a single command:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 06:20 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote:

OK, let me find out whether YouTube is being honest by declaring in the
video stream that an advertisement has started.


Thanks for this offer to learn more as the New Pipe code is open source and
many years old, so Google knows all about it, especially since it directly
competes with YouTube Red functionality.

Notice the orange strips in the video's skip bar.


I haven't seen those "orange strips".
What are those orange strips supposed to be telling us?

Char Jackson January 1st 18 07:29 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 19:19:22 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch
wrote:

Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - snip


That's incorrect. You can use it that way, but it definitely isn't "just
a host-file blocker".

which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).


Neither of those replace the functionality of Adblock Plus.


John Doe[_8_] January 1st 18 07:33 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
Andy Burns wrote:

Joe Scotch wrote:

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone


Yet another nym?


No big deal anyway, the Windows 10 group is definitely not
being overrun by spam, but for people who enjoy USENET
mysteries... After taking a look, it appears to be a
different poster than the one who asked before. Not that the
header being different is conclusive, but here are the two,
beginning with the prior...

By the way... The original poster can search for the prior
thread if it wants other angles/answers to its question.


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J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_] January 1st 18 08:30 AM

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In message , Joe Scotch
writes:
[]
On Windows, I download any YouTube video by running this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}


I find my browser addon (I use downloadhelper) easier to use than that
commandline would be (especially if I want to change the download target
location) ...

Or I extract just the audio with this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}


....though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
anyone?). Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
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Andy Burns[_6_] January 1st 18 10:16 AM

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Joe Scotch wrote:

Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?


On windows? No.

For windows? Yes, try an emulator instead.

Mr. Man-wai Chang January 1st 18 11:08 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
On 1/1/2018 14:20, Joe Scotch wrote:

Notice the orange strips in the video's skip bar.


I haven't seen those "orange strips".
What are those orange strips supposed to be telling us?


They indicates the time when the ad would be streamed. I might be wrong
about its color... orange? yellow? :)

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Mayayana January 1st 18 02:20 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| ...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
| handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
| anyone?).

I think it's on the menu but requires installing
an external extractor. DH doesn't provide that
functionality natively.



Mayayana January 1st 18 02:26 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
| that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?

It looks like there's a one-piece Windows version he

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.



Mark Lloyd[_2_] January 1st 18 04:26 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is forAndroid?
 
On 12/31/2017 02:52 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Joe Scotch" wrote


In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.


I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.


I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
browser on YouTube.

I do have a Firefox extension on my computer to download from YouTube. I
don't need to do this on Android.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Windows Closed. You can't look outside now."

Mayayana January 1st 18 04:34 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"Mark Lloyd" wrote

| I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
| Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
| and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
| how it works then try it and stop yapping.
|
| I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
| browser on YouTube.
|

We seem to have some sort of crazed OSS evangelist
here who has no intention of actually communicating.
He's only using posts as an excuse to post additional
sales pitches. At least it's free, anyway. :)



Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , John Doe
wrote:

No big deal anyway, the Windows 10 group is definitely not
being overrun by spam, but for people who enjoy USENET
mysteries... After taking a look, it appears to be a
different poster than the one who asked before. Not that the
header being different is conclusive, but here are the two,
beginning with the prior...

By the way... The original poster can search for the prior
thread if it wants other angles/answers to its question.


The problem here is that some people think all Black people are thieves,
all Jews are scheisters, all Muslims are terrorists, all Italians are in
the Mafia, all Germans are white supremecists, all women in skirts are
whores, all gay men are sluts, etc.

To wit, some people think that anyone who wants privacy on the net is
trolling or spamming even though they don't troll nor do they spam.

It's like accusing everyone of locking their car doors when they park at
the mall of hiding drugs in the vehicle.

Sure, trolls change their headers and spammers do too. But a troll actually
trolls, and a spammer actually spams.

There is no crime in changing headers, and, in fact, I've posted probably
ten thousand times on Usenet over the decades and never once have I trolled
or spammed.

1. I ask a question.
2. I respond to every valid response.
3. I attempt every viable suggestion.
4. I report back on what I found.
5. I generally *improve* the overall *tribal knowledge* of the group.
(Or at least I try.)

I don't even use a Usenet reader. I'm on Linux most of the time that I'm
using Usenet (where the tools I use originated with rn and tin on SunOS and
Solaris). I have no idea what *any* of the headers say since they're all
culled out of a dictionary lookup and only statically tied to the original
post.

Those decades-old scripts are a mess by now, but I don't even know *who* I
am when I post since that isn't of any concern to the question.

Why would it matter if "joe" posted or "bill" or "bobby" or "sue" when all
that matters is the question. The header contains nntp posting information
that is meaningless.

Some people here use Usenet to banter and to cajole and to make "friends".
I don't.

I use Usenet to expand my knowledge and to give back to the group with that
expanded knowledge.

I ask for your help - and I give help back in return.
I don't ask you to be my friend and I don't need you to know who I am.

All you need to know is what the question is, and what the answers become.
For that, you just need to know the SUBJECT and BODY.

Everything else is meaningless to the question.

You may have a "banter with friends" use model for Usenet.
My model is "ask for & improve knowledge".

Two different models.

Yours requires all headers to remain static.
Static headers would be meaningless in my model (and privacy leaking).

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Andy Burns
wrote:

Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?


On windows? No.

For windows? Yes, try an emulator instead.


Thanks for that idea as I hadn't thought of an Android emulator on Windows.
The effort to find the best Android emulator is the trick of course.
Generally I ask others what is the best.

Of course, I google first, where I look for top-10 lists, where I cull the
lists together to find if certain emulators always show up in the top
handful.

Sometimes that happens (which makes it easy to pick just one).
Often that doesn't happen (which means the lists are nearly worthless).

Top 7 Free Android Emulators for PC Windows 7/8/8.1/10 | Run Android apps
on Computer PC/Windows 7/8.1/10
http://techapple.net/2014/12/top-7-f...indows-78-110/

1. Nox App Player
http://digitalmid.com/nox_setup_v5.0.0.1_full.exe
2. BlueStacks
https://goo.gl/boz823
3. KO Player
http://down1.koplayer.com/Emulator/n...1052-co020.exe
4. Andyroid Andy OS
https://goo.gl/AktCGi
5. Droid4X
http://droid4x.com
6. Windroy - The Android emulator with a Windows Kernel!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72...it?usp=sharing
7. GenyMotion
https://www.genymotion.com

8 Best Android Emulators for Windows 10 to Run Android Games & Apps
http://windowsreport.com/best-androi...rs-windows-10/

1. Andy
http://www.andyroid.net/test/getandy...tner=winreport
2. Droid4X
http://www.droid4x.com/
3. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
4. AMIDuOS
http://www.amiduos.com/
5. Windroy
http://windroy.en.softonic.com/
6. Genymotion
https://www.genymotion.com/#!/
7. Nox
http://en.bignox.com/
8. Xamarin Android Player
https://xamarin-android-player.s3.am...ayer%20x64.exe

7 Best Android Emulators for Windows You Can Use
https://beebom.com/best-android-emulators-windows/

1. Remix OS Player
http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download
2. MEmu
http://www.memuplay.com/
3. Nox Player
https://www.bignox.com/#p1
4. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/#gref
5. AMIDuOS
http://www.amiduos.com/ (30-day trial)
6. LeapDroid
https://leapdroid.en.softonic.com/
7. Genymotion
https://www.genymotion.com/
8. AndyOS (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.andyroid.net/
9. KoPlayer (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.koplayer.com/
10. Droid4X (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Mobile-.../Droid4X.shtml
11. Android Studio (the official Android emnulator bundled with the dev
env)
https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html

12+- Best Android Emulators For Windows PC & Mac 2018
http://www.androidcrush.com/best-and...or-pc-windows/

1. Nox App Player
https://www.bignox.com/
2. Remix OS Player
http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download
3. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
4. GenyMotion
https://www.genymotion.com/
5. MEmu
http://www.memuplay.com/download.php...p&from=home_en
6. Andyroid
http://filehippo.com/download_andy/
7. Ko Player
http://www.koplayer.com/
8. Youwave
https://youwave.com/download/
9. VirtualBox with Android ISO
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
http://www.android-x86.org/download
10. Android Studio+IBk-s Emulator
https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html
11. Xamarin Android Player
https://developer.xamarin.com/releas...ndroid-player/
12. LeapDroid
(no longer available)

Given these lists, I would guess that "Nox" is the way to go for beginners
like I am.

Do others who use Android emulation concur?
Which free Android emulator do you prefer for Windows and why?

NOTE: This should probably be a separate thread.


Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mayayana
wrote:

| Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
| that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?

It looks like there's a one-piece Windows version he

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.


Since I always give back, in detail, for any help, here is a tutorial that
should work for anyone.

You should be able to cut and paste the steps and get going in minutes.
If not, please tell me what I need to correct!

1. Choose any test video that you know will have slipstream ads inside it.
https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg (Happy New Year 2018)

2. Obtain the latest ffmpeg if you don't have it (you'll need ffprobe.exe).
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

This is the one I used:

http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win...n64-static.zip

3. You'll only need ffmpeg if you want to extract audio.
I put the three ffmpeg executables in the current directory.
However you can add them to your path if you like.
AFAIK, you only need 1 of the 3 ffmpeg executables (ffprobe.exe).

cmd copy c:\path\ffmpeg\bin\ffprobe.exe .\ffprobe.exe
(Or just put the extracted c:\path\ffmpeg\bin\ in your PATH variable.)

If you get these errors when running the youtube extractor, it's the
path:
"writing DASH m4a. Only some players support this container. "
"Install ffmpeg or avconv to fix this automatically."

4. Obtain the latest working youtube-dl.exe (get the right one!)

This is the one I use because it works and doesn't require python!
From: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
Size: 7760634 bytes (7 MB)
SHA256: C0396D47480D7C9A14464A8E51E79993F88BD76D6BCFDB1131 2EFD0D88F3C5C7

5. Doublecheck that the basics are working fine & that you're up to date:
cmd youtube-dl.exe --version
Initially reported:
2017.07.15

So I updated it:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -U
Which reported:
Updating to version 2017.12.31 ...
Waiting for file handle to be closed ...
Updated youtube-dl to version 2017.12.31.

Testing it again:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -U
Now reports:
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2017.12.31)

And doublechecking the version:
cmd youtube-dl.exe --version
Now reports:
2017.12.31

Optionally, output the manpage:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -h youtube-dl.man.txt
cmd type youtube-dl.man.txt | more

6. Run the command below to download any YouTube video as an mp4:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -f 18 https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Destination: Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.mp4
[download] 100% of 3.44MiB in 00:01

cmd dir
30-Dec-17 10:14 AM 3,602,418 Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.mp4

Note that you can actually add the ads as this is an option!
--include-ads (Download advertisements as well)

7. Now try to extract the audio as an opus file:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -x https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Destination: Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a
[download] 100% of 621.97KiB in 00:00
[ffmpeg] Correcting container in "Happy New Year
2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a"
[ffmpeg] Post-process file Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a
exists, skipping

8. Try to extract the audio as an m4a format file:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -f 140 https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a has already been
downloaded
[download] 100% of 621.52KiB
[ffmpeg] Correcting container in "Happy New Year
2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a"

9. In summary, these two commands are the ones most used:
Video download:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -f 140 https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
Audio extraction:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -f 140 https://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg

10. Addendum: I do not use this implementation of the same name!
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe
Referenced in https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
(This implementation failed on the harder test videos.)
Addendum: I do not use the all-in-1 GUI which failed on my harder
tests.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/

Please let me know if you use these steps what I need to fix.
I tested every step so it "should" work for you, cut and paste.

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

I find my browser addon (I use downloadhelper) easier to use than that
commandline would be (especially if I want to change the download target
location) ...


If you look at the man page for the video extractor I use, it has lots of
options which you might not have in the web browswer method, such as
downloading all the videos given a text file playlist, for example.

But to your point, wouldn't a simple Windows file redirect work?
It's a single additional character "" if it does.

Let me try that for you.
Let's take an arbitrary video (short for test purposes).

Click... click... https://youtu.be/pEN_htHtt_c

OK. It didn't work. It just put text-based stderr into the output file.

Or I extract just the audio with this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}


...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
anyone?). Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?


Yes. There is a GUI. I don't use the GUI, but there is a GUI.

The confusion is that if you don't know which to use, you spend all your
time figuring it out as there are at least *four* different
youtube-dl-stuff implementations, each with different requirements where
two of the implementations have the exact same name (but they have greatly
different requirements!).

I don't use it, but this is the all-in-one GUI:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/

This is the command line one that I use:
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe

If you don't already have ffmpeg, you'll need it for the one that I use:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

For example, this is the ffmpeg version that I'm using:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win...n64-static.zip

The youtube download executables I would *not* use are these:
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe (requires python)
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl (also requires python)

If you need more help, I have written a tutorial that you can just cut and
paste and follow as I have written tens of thousands of them because I
write them every time I install anything.

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Joe Scotch wrote:

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?


I was looking up file redirects in the existing youtube video extractor on
Windows when I noticed in the man page that there is actually an option to
*include* the ads!

Of all things! :)

Here's the manpage where the point of the man page is that it does a *lot*
more than just download a video.

Usage: youtube-dl.exe [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

Options:
General Options:
-h, --help Print this help text and exit
--version Print program version and exit
-U, --update Update this program to latest version.
Make
sure that you have sufficient
permissions
(run with sudo if needed)
-i, --ignore-errors Continue on download errors, for
example to
skip unavailable videos in a playlist
--abort-on-error Abort downloading of further videos
(in the
playlist or the command line) if an
error
occurs
--dump-user-agent Display the current browser
identification
--list-extractors List all supported extractors
--extractor-descriptions Output descriptions of all supported
extractors
--force-generic-extractor Force extraction to use the generic
extractor
--default-search PREFIX Use this prefix for unqualified URLs.
For
example "gvsearch2:" downloads two
videos
from google videos for youtube-dl
"large
apple". Use the value "auto" to let
youtube-dl guess ("auto_warning" to
emit a
warning when guessing). "error" just
throws
an error. The default value
"fixup_error"
repairs broken URLs, but emits an
error if
this is not possible instead of
searching.
--ignore-config Do not read configuration files. When
given
in the global configuration file /etc
/youtube-dl.conf: Do not read the user
configuration in ~/.config/youtube-
dl/config
(%APPDATA%/youtube-dl/config.txt
on Windows)
--config-location PATH Location of the configuration file;
either
the path to the config or its
containing
directory.
--flat-playlist Do not extract the videos of a
playlist,
only list them.
--mark-watched Mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-mark-watched Do not mark videos watched (YouTube
only)
--no-color Do not emit color codes in output

Network Options:
--proxy URL Use the specified HTTP/HTTPS/SOCKS
proxy.
To enable experimental SOCKS proxy,
specify
a proper scheme. For example
socks5://127.0.0.1:1080/. Pass in an
empty
string (--proxy "") for direct
connection
--socket-timeout SECONDS Time to wait before giving up, in
seconds
--source-address IP Client-side IP address to bind to
-4, --force-ipv4 Make all connections via IPv4
-6, --force-ipv6 Make all connections via IPv6

Geo Restriction:
--geo-verification-proxy URL Use this proxy to verify the IP
address for
some geo-restricted sites. The default
proxy specified by --proxy (or none,
if the
options is not present) is used for
the
actual downloading.
--geo-bypass Bypass geographic restriction via
faking X
-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--no-geo-bypass Do not bypass geographic restriction
via
faking X-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--geo-bypass-country CODE Force bypass geographic restriction
with
explicitly provided two-letter ISO
3166-2
country code (experimental)

Video Selection:
--playlist-start NUMBER Playlist video to start at (default is
1)
--playlist-end NUMBER Playlist video to end at (default is
last)
--playlist-items ITEM_SPEC Playlist video items to download.
Specify
indices of the videos in the playlist
separated by commas like:
"--playlist-items
1,2,5,8" if you want to download
videos
indexed 1, 2, 5, 8 in the playlist.
You can
specify range: "--playlist-items
1-3,7,10-13", it will download the
videos
at index 1, 2, 3, 7, 10, 11, 12 and
13.
--match-title REGEX Download only matching titles (regex
or
caseless sub-string)
--reject-title REGEX Skip download for matching titles
(regex or
caseless sub-string)
--max-downloads NUMBER Abort after downloading NUMBER files
--min-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos smaller
than
SIZE (e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--max-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos larger than
SIZE
(e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--date DATE Download only videos uploaded in this
date
--datebefore DATE Download only videos uploaded on or
before
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--dateafter DATE Download only videos uploaded on or
after
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--min-views COUNT Do not download any videos with less
than
COUNT views
--max-views COUNT Do not download any videos with more
than
COUNT views
--match-filter FILTER Generic video filter. Specify any key
(see
the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a list of
available keys) to match if the key is
present, !key to check if the key is
not
present, key NUMBER (like
"comment_count
12", also works with =, , =, !=, =) to

compare against a number, key =
'LITERAL'
(like "uploader = 'Mike Smith'", also
works
with !=) to match against a string
literal
and & to require multiple matches.
Values
which are not known are excluded
unless you
put a question mark (?) after the
operator.
For example, to only match videos that
have
been liked more than 100 times and
disliked
less than 50 times (or the dislike
functionality is not available at the
given
service), but who also have a
description,
use --match-filter "like_count 100 &
dislike_count ? 50 & description" .
--no-playlist Download only the video, if the URL
refers
to a video and a playlist.
--yes-playlist Download the playlist, if the URL
refers to
a video and a playlist.
--age-limit YEARS Download only videos suitable for the
given
age
--download-archive FILE Download only videos not listed in the
archive file. Record the IDs of all
downloaded videos in it.
--include-ads Download advertisements as well
(experimental)

Download Options:
-r, --limit-rate RATE Maximum download rate in bytes per
second
(e.g. 50K or 4.2M)
-R, --retries RETRIES Number of retries (default is 10), or
"infinite".
--fragment-retries RETRIES Number of retries for a fragment
(default
is 10), or "infinite" (DASH, hlsnative
and
ISM)
--skip-unavailable-fragments Skip unavailable fragments (DASH,
hlsnative
and ISM)
--abort-on-unavailable-fragment Abort downloading when some fragment
is not
available
--keep-fragments Keep downloaded fragments on disk
after
downloading is finished; fragments are
erased by default
--buffer-size SIZE Size of download buffer (e.g. 1024 or
16K)
(default is 1024)
--no-resize-buffer Do not automatically adjust the buffer
size. By default, the buffer size is
automatically resized from an initial
value
of SIZE.
--playlist-reverse Download playlist videos in reverse
order
--playlist-random Download playlist videos in random
order
--xattr-set-filesize Set file xattribute ytdl.filesize with
expected file size (experimental)
--hls-prefer-native Use the native HLS downloader instead
of
ffmpeg
--hls-prefer-ffmpeg Use ffmpeg instead of the native HLS
downloader
--hls-use-mpegts Use the mpegts container for HLS
videos,
allowing to play the video while
downloading (some players may not be
able
to play it)
--external-downloader COMMAND Use the specified external downloader.
Currently supports

aria2c,avconv,axel,curl,ffmpeg,httpie,wget
--external-downloader-args ARGS Give these arguments to the external
downloader

Filesystem Options:
-a, --batch-file FILE File containing URLs to download ('-'
for
stdin)
--id Use only video ID in file name
-o, --output TEMPLATE Output filename template, see the
"OUTPUT
TEMPLATE" for all the info
--autonumber-start NUMBER Specify the start value for
%(autonumber)s
(default is 1)
--restrict-filenames Restrict filenames to only ASCII
characters, and avoid "&" and spaces
in
filenames
-w, --no-overwrites Do not overwrite files
-c, --continue Force resume of partially downloaded
files.
By default, youtube-dl will resume
downloads if possible.
--no-continue Do not resume partially downloaded
files
(restart from beginning)
--no-part Do not use .part files - write
directly
into output file
--no-mtime Do not use the Last-modified header to
set
the file modification time
--write-description Write video description to a
..description
file
--write-info-json Write video metadata to a .info.json
file
--write-annotations Write video annotations to a
.annotations.xml file
--load-info-json FILE JSON file containing the video
information
(created with the "--write-info-json"
option)
--cookies FILE File to read cookies from and dump
cookie
jar in
--cache-dir DIR Location in the filesystem where
youtube-dl
can store some downloaded information
permanently. By default
$XDG_CACHE_HOME
/youtube-dl or ~/.cache/youtube-dl .
At the
moment, only YouTube player files (for
videos with obfuscated signatures) are
cached, but that may change.
--no-cache-dir Disable filesystem caching
--rm-cache-dir Delete all filesystem cache files

Thumbnail images:
--write-thumbnail Write thumbnail image to disk
--write-all-thumbnails Write all thumbnail image formats to
disk
--list-thumbnails Simulate and list all available
thumbnail
formats

Verbosity / Simulation Options:
-q, --quiet Activate quiet mode
--no-warnings Ignore warnings
-s, --simulate Do not download the video and do not
write
anything to disk
--skip-download Do not download the video
-g, --get-url Simulate, quiet but print URL
-e, --get-title Simulate, quiet but print title
--get-id Simulate, quiet but print id
--get-thumbnail Simulate, quiet but print thumbnail
URL
--get-description Simulate, quiet but print video
description
--get-duration Simulate, quiet but print video length
--get-filename Simulate, quiet but print output
filename
--get-format Simulate, quiet but print output
format
-j, --dump-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON
information.
See the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a
description
of available keys.
-J, --dump-single-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON
information
for each command-line argument. If the
URL
refers to a playlist, dump the whole
playlist information in a single line.
--print-json Be quiet and print the video
information as
JSON (video is still being
downloaded).
--newline Output progress bar as new lines
--no-progress Do not print progress bar
--console-title Display progress in console titlebar
-v, --verbose Print various debugging information
--dump-pages Print downloaded pages encoded using
base64
to debug problems (very verbose)
--write-pages Write downloaded intermediary pages to
files in the current directory to
debug
problems
--print-traffic Display sent and read HTTP traffic
-C, --call-home Contact the youtube-dl server for
debugging
--no-call-home Do NOT contact the youtube-dl server
for
debugging

Workarounds:
--encoding ENCODING Force the specified encoding
(experimental)
--no-check-certificate Suppress HTTPS certificate validation
--prefer-insecure Use an unencrypted connection to
retrieve
information about the video.
(Currently
supported only for YouTube)
--user-agent UA Specify a custom user agent
--referer URL Specify a custom referer, use if the
video
access is restricted to one domain
--add-header FIELD:VALUE Specify a custom HTTP header and its
value,
separated by a colon ':'. You can use
this
option multiple times
--bidi-workaround Work around terminals that lack
bidirectional text support. Requires
bidiv
or fribidi executable in PATH
--sleep-interval SECONDS Number of seconds to sleep before each
download when used alone or a lower
bound
of a range for randomized sleep before
each
download (minimum possible number of
seconds to sleep) when used along with
--max-sleep-interval.
--max-sleep-interval SECONDS Upper bound of a range for randomized
sleep
before each download (maximum possible
number of seconds to sleep). Must only
be
used along with --min-sleep-interval.

Video Format Options:
-f, --format FORMAT Video format code, see the "FORMAT
SELECTION" for all the info
--all-formats Download all available video formats
--prefer-free-formats Prefer free video formats unless a
specific
one is requested
-F, --list-formats List all available formats of
requested
videos
--youtube-skip-dash-manifest Do not download the DASH manifests and
related data on YouTube videos
--merge-output-format FORMAT If a merge is required (e.g.
bestvideo+bestaudio), output to given
container format. One of mkv, mp4,
ogg,
webm, flv. Ignored if no merge is
required

Subtitle Options:
--write-sub Write subtitle file
--write-auto-sub Write automatically generated subtitle
file
(YouTube only)
--all-subs Download all the available subtitles
of the
video
--list-subs List all available subtitles for the
video
--sub-format FORMAT Subtitle format, accepts formats
preference, for example: "srt" or
"ass/srt/best"
--sub-lang LANGS Languages of the subtitles to download
(optional) separated by commas, use
--list-
subs for available language tags

Authentication Options:
-u, --username USERNAME Login with this account ID
-p, --password PASSWORD Account password. If this option is
left
out, youtube-dl will ask
interactively.
-2, --twofactor TWOFACTOR Two-factor authentication code
-n, --netrc Use .netrc authentication data
--video-password PASSWORD Video password (vimeo, smotri, youku)

Adobe Pass Options:
--ap-mso MSO Adobe Pass multiple-system operator
(TV
provider) identifier, use
--ap-list-mso for
a list of available MSOs
--ap-username USERNAME Multiple-system operator account login
--ap-password PASSWORD Multiple-system operator account
password.
If this option is left out, youtube-dl
will
ask interactively.
--ap-list-mso List all supported multiple-system
operators

Post-processing Options:
-x, --extract-audio Convert video files to audio-only
files
(requires ffmpeg or avconv and ffprobe
or
avprobe)
--audio-format FORMAT Specify audio format: "best", "aac",
"flac", "mp3", "m4a", "opus",
"vorbis", or
"wav"; "best" by default; No effect
without
-x
--audio-quality QUALITY Specify ffmpeg/avconv audio quality,
insert
a value between 0 (better) and 9
(worse)
for VBR or a specific bitrate like
128K
(default 5)
--recode-video FORMAT Encode the video to another format if
necessary (currently supported:
mp4|flv|ogg|webm|mkv|avi)
--postprocessor-args ARGS Give these arguments to the
postprocessor
-k, --keep-video Keep the video file on disk after the
post-
processing; the video is erased by
default
--no-post-overwrites Do not overwrite post-processed files;
the
post-processed files are overwritten
by
default
--embed-subs Embed subtitles in the video (only for
mp4,
webm and mkv videos)
--embed-thumbnail Embed thumbnail in the audio as cover
art
--add-metadata Write metadata to the video file
--metadata-from-title FORMAT Parse additional metadata like song
title /
artist from the video title. The
format
syntax is the same as --output.
Regular
expression with named capture groups
may
also be used. The parsed parameters
replace
existing values. Example:
--metadata-from-
title "%(artist)s - %(title)s" matches
a
title like "Coldplay - Paradise".
Example
(regex): --metadata-from-title
"(?Partist.+?) - (?Ptitle.+)"
--xattrs Write metadata to the video file's
xattrs
(using dublin core and xdg standards)
--fixup POLICY Automatically correct known faults of
the
file. One of never (do nothing), warn
(only
emit a warning), detect_or_warn (the
default; fix file if we can, warn
otherwise)
--prefer-avconv Prefer avconv over ffmpeg for running
the
postprocessors (default)
--prefer-ffmpeg Prefer ffmpeg over avconv for running
the
postprocessors
--ffmpeg-location PATH Location of the ffmpeg/avconv binary;
either the path to the binary or its
containing directory.
--exec CMD Execute a command on the file after
downloading, similar to find's -exec
syntax. Example: --exec 'adb push {}
/sdcard/Music/ && rm {}'
--convert-subs FORMAT Convert the subtitles to other format
(currently supported: srt|ass|vtt)

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Char Jackson
wrote:

Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - snip


That's incorrect. You can use it that way, but it definitely isn't "just
a host-file blocker".

which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).


Neither of those replace the functionality of Adblock Plus.


Thanks for that correction.

To my credit, I did Google for what AdBlock does, and I already posted the
NY Times article about it where even its own owners said it's badly named
for what it does.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/b...-the-door.html

Here's a direct quote, which shows that its value equation is confusing:
"It's just the words we use for it that are confusing people,"
Ben Williams, director of communications and operations at Eyeo,
said in an interview. "We are called Adblock Plus, and for branding
reasons, we are not going to call ourselves something different.
But if we could, we would call ourselves something like 'web
customizer,' because that's really what we want to do for our users."

The entire article explains more about the confusion, since AdBlock gets
its revenue from whitelisting ads in the first place.

Nonetheless, confusion aside, AdBlock doesn't do 9 tenths of what New Pipe
does, even as it "might" do the most important 1 tenth that New Pipe does,
which is block inline inside-the-video ads.

And yet, nobody yet has actually confirmed the answer to this question,
where the question has to be asked because people are watching YouTube
inside of a browser it seems (which is odd but that's what they do) and
where browsers have *lots* of different types of ads.

Q: Does AdBlock block the inside-the-video inline video ads on YouTube?

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mayayana
wrote:

We seem to have some sort of crazed OSS evangelist
here who has no intention of actually communicating.
He's only using posts as an excuse to post additional
sales pitches. At least it's free, anyway. :)


Hi Mayayana,

I don't argue with you that I think differently, although I think my
thinking is logical in that I argue that a single open source tool that
does *everything* is better than a dozen tools that do the same things.

The cost in finding a tool that does everything is the problem because
there are myriad easy solutions that do each of the things individually.

For example, you use a global ad-blocking solution such as Acrylic DNS,
which you know most people haven't bothered to learn, while some people use
a hosts file instead to block ten thousand hosts - while most people just
fall prey to the AdBlock solution, which even they must admit only works in
a small world inside a single browser at a time.

My feelings on AdBlock are that it's a small bandaid that works fine for
the small thing that it does - but - for example - it doesn't download
videos and it requires a browser and it doesn't extract videos and it
doesn't search for videos and it doesn't play videos, etc.

So anyone who suggests AdBlock didn't understand what New Pipe does.

So it's clearly my fault for not explaining that New Pipe does a lot more
than AdBlock could ever do - so AdBlock can't possibly answer the question.

Having explained that simple miscommunication on my part, the odd thing
here is that nobody who uses AdBlock has confirmed that AdBlock blocks what
Man-wai Chang called "slipstream" ads.

Can we get a simple "yes" or "no" from the AdBlock proponents?
Q: Does AdBlock block the YouTube internal "slipstream" video ads?

Joe Scotch January 1st 18 07:50 PM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
/nIn , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
browser on YouTube.


I appreciate the correction, where Usenet is a tough medium when people
start with pre-conceived notions - and where I generally think differently
than do most people about KISS simple software solutions.

I don't disagree that AdBlock will block ads, but I just want someone to
confirm we're talking about the *same* kind of ads, since there are
multiple kinds of ads when you add the complexity of a web browser.

For a web browser, there are so many types of ads that it's not funny.

The only ad that the question is concerned with are the "slipstreamed" ads
that are *inserted* inside a YouTube video.

I do have a Firefox extension on my computer to download from YouTube. I
don't need to do this on Android.


The problem with Firefox extensions is that they only work for Firefox
browsers, so you're constantly adding extensions to Chrome & Windows based
browsers if you go the route of extensions.

Also, the problem with browsers is that they have a huge host of other
issues, and a huge host of other ways to throw ads at you - so a browser is
really a bad tool (IMHO) to use from those perspectives - to use to simply
download or extract a video.

I'm not at all saying that your browser-download and extraction method
doesn't work - and if all you use is a single browser - and if you do lots
of other things in that browser to set it up - I'm sure it's just as good.

I simply argue that this single step is better in a whole bunch of ways:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 URL

Having said all that - I appreciate the help and advice - where I would
just want someone to *confirm* that the AdBlocker everyone seems to love
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a YouTube video.

Diesel January 2nd 18 12:16 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
"Mayayana"
Mon, 01 Jan 2018 14:26:15 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.


the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console than
you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.


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Diesel January 2nd 18 12:16 AM

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
 
Joe Scotch Mon, 01
Jan 2018 19:50:43 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

Since I always give back, in detail, for any help, here is a
tutorial that should work for anyone.


Your tutorial is no doubt very useful to some. But, I found an
excellent plugin for the firefox browser which tends to require no real
effort on my part to grab the video/audio I want without having to jump
thru any hoops or install additional software. I've yet to run across a
video/audio file it can't pull a local copy of for me, and, it's not
specific to youtube. Not only does it do a fantastic job of getting me
exactly what I want, there's no slipstreamed advertising or re-encoding
required on my part. It pulls the specific video in the format I want
(if multiple formats of the video are available) without having to
transcode, re-encode or strip anything. And, it's able to pull at the
speed I'd normally directly download a file with too. IE: much faster
than watching said video.

https://flashgot.net/

It can do it with the browsers built in downloading code, or, if you
have one or more supported download managers, pass it along to them. I
actually have orbit on this machine (it's not freeware or wasn't when I
obtained it) and I can switch over to it if I'd prefer, but, I rarely
find a need to do so.



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