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pyotr filipivich December 6th 18 03:51 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.

Palemoon and Firefox both just tell me there is a problem.
Opera gives me the message: "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you
too many times."

Say what?

(For what it is worth, I went there from he
https://hillfaith.blog/2018/12/06/yes-god-can-even-use-pink-floyd-to-bring-you-to-truth/)

Short of suddenly developing mAd PRogrammer Skillz, is there
anyway to figure out what in the name of Lenodias's Lapdogs might be
going on?
I've tried messing about with Palemoon cookie preferences (use
custom settings, accept all cookies) but nothing seems to change.

Fnord. Another day when the Interwebs lives up to low
expectations.

(Yes, I'm mostly griping about a "minor" problem: I can't read a
particular article.)



--
pyotr filipivich
The question was asked: "Is Hindsight overrated?"
In retrospect, it appears to be.

Frank Slootweg December 6th 18 04:34 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
pyotr filipivich wrote:
I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.

Palemoon and Firefox both just tell me there is a problem.
Opera gives me the message: "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you
too many times."

Say what?

(For what it is worth, I went there from he
https://hillfaith.blog/2018/12/06/yes-god-can-even-use-pink-floyd-to-bring-you-to-truth/)

Short of suddenly developing mAd PRogrammer Skillz, is there
anyway to figure out what in the name of Lenodias's Lapdogs might be
going on?
I've tried messing about with Palemoon cookie preferences (use
custom settings, accept all cookies) but nothing seems to change.

Fnord. Another day when the Interwebs lives up to low
expectations.

(Yes, I'm mostly griping about a "minor" problem: I can't read a
particular article.)


FWIW, the given URL works fine (at least for me) in IE11 and Chrome
(70.0.3538.110), both on Windows 8.1. IOW, *my* crap works! :-)

Did you uninstall - or not install - IE?

Mayayana December 6th 18 04:45 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"pyotr filipivich" wrote
| I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.
|
I get the same thing. The problem with that is it's
hard to know what they're trying to do because it happens
before the page loads. Since it's encrypted I can't see
in something like Smart Sniffer what the conversation is
with the server.
I think it usually means that they want to snoop and can't,
so it's just looping, but I don't know the details. I generally
find that with very commercial sites.

It probably worked for Frank because he's using IE
and Chrome, thus has no security or privacy. So they're
happy to see him coming. :)

If you really want to see it, go to Google and do a search,
then load the cached version.



Frank Slootweg December 6th 18 05:36 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
Mayayana wrote:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote
| I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.
|
I get the same thing. The problem with that is it's
hard to know what they're trying to do because it happens
before the page loads. Since it's encrypted I can't see
in something like Smart Sniffer what the conversation is
with the server.
I think it usually means that they want to snoop and can't,
so it's just looping, but I don't know the details. I generally
find that with very commercial sites.

It probably worked for Frank because he's using IE
and Chrome, thus has no security or privacy. So they're
happy to see him coming. :)


I *heard* that!? :-)

If you really want to see it, go to Google and do a search,
then load the cached version.


That made this Dutchie think of doing the decent thing and put it [1]
in the archive at web.archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20181206163027/https://hillfaith.blog/2018/12/06/yes-god-can-even-use-pink-floyd-to-bring-you-to-truth

Let us know if *that* works for your broken :-) browsers.

[1] I didn't know that it is so easy to *put* things in the archive!

Mayayana December 6th 18 05:55 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| [1] I didn't know that it is so easy to *put* things in the archive!

I didn't, either. It never occurred to me to submit.

I've been frustrated recently with how much is
missing. I save links and text for articles and then
sometimes want to share the link later, but often
the pages are gone and increasingly they're also
gone from archive.org. I'm assuming the original
host asked for them to be removed.

Microsoft are actually one of the worst in terms of
removing pages and breaking links. Some others
(I think The Register is an example) seem to keep
everything they've ever posted live.

I remember discovering Dark Side of the Moon
while very, very high, coming down out of the
Rocky Mountains in Colorado, with someone
who'd been nice enough to pick up my girlfriend
and I hitchhiking. That would have been '76.
I was impressed. But I think the pot was the main
factor in that. It didn't lead to becoming a born
again Christian.



Ralph Fox December 6th 18 06:35 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 06:51:25 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.

Palemoon and Firefox both just tell me there is a problem.
Opera gives me the message: "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you
too many times."

Say what?



1. You already know what a redirection is. For example, you enter the URL
http://www.forteinc.com/
into your web browser, and it redirects you to another URL
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

2. You already also know that on some web sites, when you try to go to a
page that is missing, the web site redirects you to a different page
which may say something like "ooops, what were you looking for?".

3. Now think what tries to happen when the "ooops" page is also missing.
The web site will redirect you a second time to the "ooops" page,
and a third time, and a fourth time, and so on and so on and so on.

Eventually your web browser will figure out that this is going nowhere
and will tell you that the web site "redirected you too many times".

Often this means the website owners are doing work on the web site
and it will be back to normal in either a few hours or a few weeks.



--
Kind regards
Ralph

Mayayana December 6th 18 08:23 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"Ralph Fox" wrote

| 3. Now think what tries to happen when the "ooops" page is also missing.
| The web site will redirect you a second time to the "ooops" page,
| and a third time, and a fourth time, and so on and so on and so on.
|

Yes, but that's clearly not the issue, since Frank
can reach the page.




VanguardLH[_2_] December 6th 18 11:34 PM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
Ralph Fox wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 06:51:25 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.

Palemoon and Firefox both just tell me there is a problem.
Opera gives me the message: "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you
too many times."

Say what?


1. You already know what a redirection is. For example, you enter the URL
http://www.forteinc.com/
into your web browser, and it redirects you to another URL
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

2. You already also know that on some web sites, when you try to go to a
page that is missing, the web site redirects you to a different page
which may say something like "ooops, what were you looking for?".

3. Now think what tries to happen when the "ooops" page is also missing.
The web site will redirect you a second time to the "ooops" page,
and a third time, and a fourth time, and so on and so on and so on.

Eventually your web browser will figure out that this is going nowhere
and will tell you that the web site "redirected you too many times".

Often this means the website owners are doing work on the web site
and it will be back to normal in either a few hours or a few weeks.


There are also interstitial pages used with meta-refresh (even if set to
zero for timeout) that are used to redirect your navigation within a
site. In additions, many sites are now interactive: they deliver web
pages that are heavily scripted to provide dynamic content, and that
content could be (and often is) off-domain. The content must be
redirected from another source (versus redirection of the entire
document to another).

That site uses WordPress which is a lazyman's crappy web designer.
Redirection gets so heavily used with WP that it has its own redirection
managers (https://wordpress.org/plugins/redirection/). However, if a
site dev doesn't use it or is unaware of loose or unconnected nav paths,
it isn't of any help. Too often web devs make changes without testing
the effect on their site and also too often don't bother testing
externally (coming in from the outside using a non-customized host).

I use both uBlock Origin (with all blacklists except uBO will eliminate
the overlaps) and uMatrix (configured only to block off-domain scripts).
My visit to the poachedegg.net has uBO blocking some of that domain's
own content (not all of it is considered wholly safe), some of WP's own
content, Google tracking (analytics and tag manager), and hotjar and
revolvermaps content. uMatrix is blocking off-domain scripts from the
same sources but also from tryinteract.com which uBO does not. The site
renders okay for me. While breaking sites by blocking some of its
resources can often cause problems in the delivered web page, often it
can also fix problems, like crappy scripting that generates too many
redirects.

pyotr told use which web browsers he uses but nothing about which
extensions he has installed into each, or what happens when he loads the
web browsers in their safe mode to eliminate modification of content by
any installed extensions. Anti-virus software that interrogates web
traffic can also affect odd behavior in a web page.

pyotr filipivich December 7th 18 12:06 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"Mayayana" on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:45:48 -0500
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote
| I'm getting messages, that I can't 'reach a website.
|
I get the same thing. The problem with that is it's
hard to know what they're trying to do because it happens
before the page loads. Since it's encrypted I can't see
in something like Smart Sniffer what the conversation is
with the server.
I think it usually means that they want to snoop and can't,
so it's just looping, but I don't know the details. I generally
find that with very commercial sites.

It probably worked for Frank because he's using IE
and Chrome, thus has no security or privacy. So they're
happy to see him coming. :)

If you really want to see it, go to Google and do a search,
then load the cached version.


Nerts. It seemed like an interesting article, but not interesting
enough to go through all that.

--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

pyotr filipivich December 7th 18 12:06 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
VanguardLH on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 16:34:30 -0600 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:

Let me start by saying "thanks" for all the technical support.


pyotr told use which web browsers he uses but nothing about which
extensions he has installed into each,


Most of which I don't know, nor (sorry to say) do I care enough to
hunt down. If memory serves, I have the barebones loaded.

or what happens when he loads the
web browsers in their safe mode to eliminate modification of content by
any installed extensions. Anti-virus software that interrogates web
traffic can also affect odd behavior in a web page.


Ufda. Like I said, article was not interesting enough for me to
try to get past whatever is going wonky. Such is life - I'm "too
busy" trying to figure out how to map the alumacantor circles for a
Astrolabe. (I can figure out how to do it with a compass and rule
{aka Geometry Old School} but when I trig out the numbers, they're not
making sense. Guess I'm going to have to construct one to scale,
measure the drawing, and work back from that.)


--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

pyotr filipivich December 7th 18 12:06 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"Mayayana" on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:55:21 -0500
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| [1] I didn't know that it is so easy to *put* things in the archive!

I didn't, either. It never occurred to me to submit.

I've been frustrated recently with how much is
missing. I save links and text for articles and then
sometimes want to share the link later, but often
the pages are gone and increasingly they're also
gone from archive.org. I'm assuming the original
host asked for them to be removed.

Microsoft are actually one of the worst in terms of
removing pages and breaking links. Some others
(I think The Register is an example) seem to keep
everything they've ever posted live.

I remember discovering Dark Side of the Moon
while very, very high, coming down out of the
Rocky Mountains in Colorado, with someone
who'd been nice enough to pick up my girlfriend
and I hitchhiking. That would have been '76.
I was impressed. But I think the pot was the main
factor in that. It didn't lead to becoming a born
again Christian.


Different strokes for different folks.

Like the story about the guy who fell down a well, and while in
the well "found God", that doesn't make pushing people down a well a
valid form of evangelism. B-)

--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

Char Jackson December 7th 18 01:14 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 15:06:24 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Different strokes for different folks.

Like the story about the guy who fell down a well, and while in
the well "found God", that doesn't make pushing people down a well a
valid form of evangelism. B-)


Let us not be hasty in ruling it out, though.

--

Char Jackson

Mayayana December 7th 18 01:45 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| If you really want to see it, go to Google and do a search,
| then load the cached version.
|
| Nerts. It seemed like an interesting article, but not interesting
| enough to go through all that.

It's actually easy. I often do it for Microsoft
pages that they insist on breaking if you don't
enable script. Just copy the URL, without the
https://, paste it into Google's exact phrase
search, and go. It will almost always come up
first and you can select the cached version.





VanguardLH[_2_] December 7th 18 02:24 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
Char Jackson wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Like the story about the guy who fell down a well, and while in the
well "found God", that doesn't make pushing people down a well a
valid form of evangelism. B-)


Let us not be hasty in ruling it out, though.


Well, if the well were deep enough or dry, and if the victim were good
enough, maybe he really will find God ... the hard way: he died and went
to heaven. As for the guy who pushed him in, maybe someone was behind
him, too, and pushes him in but in his afterlife he won't meet up with
his victim.

pyotr filipivich December 7th 18 05:05 AM

Error message "www.thepoachedegg.net redirected you too many times."????
 
VanguardLH on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 19:24:03 -0600 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
Char Jackson wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Like the story about the guy who fell down a well, and while in the
well "found God", that doesn't make pushing people down a well a
valid form of evangelism. B-)


Let us not be hasty in ruling it out, though.


Well, if the well were deep enough or dry, and if the victim were good
enough, maybe he really will find God ... the hard way: he died and went
to heaven. As for the guy who pushed him in, maybe someone was behind
him, too, and pushes him in but in his afterlife he won't meet up with
his victim.


And, and, and --- Verb Sap: just because it worked for one
individual, does not necessarily mean it is a applicable to everybody.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?


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