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Windows8 User[_2_] March 5th 14 02:34 AM

Windows Live Mail
 

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.



Adam Kubias March 5th 14 02:44 AM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.


I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so she
could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.

Ron March 5th 14 03:14 AM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.



My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win 8.1.

VanguardLH[_2_] March 5th 14 07:08 AM

Windows Live Mail
 
Ron wrote:

Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.


My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win 8.1.


By "not broken" might mean the OP wants WLM to properly quote when
replying to newsgroup posts. That was broke in version 15. Could be
the OP meant some other "broken" functionality but didn't bother to
divulge it to us which means we haven't a clue what the OP think is
"broken".

I know that when you have an old OS that Microsoft won't let you
retrieve a newer version of Windows Essentials, including any component
of it, like Window Live Mail. As I recall, it also limits the minimal
version you can install. That is, if you're running Win7 then you get
the latest version from Microsoft so that would be the same for Win8.

The OP wants to install the old version 14 of WLM which is "not broke".
I think all you get from Microsoft is a web installer; i.e., when you
download Windows Essentials, you don't get Windows Essentials (or the
components you picked) but instead get a small installer that does the
component downloads and then installs those. Do you know where the OP
can get the FULL installer for WLM version 14?

Bob Henson[_2_] March 5th 14 08:06 AM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 05/03/2014 2:34 AM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.



Why not take the oppportunity to get away from WLM abnd use a real
e-mail program? All versions of WLM are broken, as was OE before it -
just ditch it and use *anything* else. Thunderbird is easiest, Claws
mail is quite good too.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Every time I hear the dirty word 'exercise', I wash my mouth out with
chocolate.

...winston‫ March 5th 14 09:27 AM

Windows Live Mail
 
VanguardLH wrote:

I know that when you have an old OS that Microsoft won't let you
retrieve a newer version of Windows Essentials, including any component
of it, like Window Live Mail.


Direct link to Microsoft server to download the latest available
installer executable file

2012
--------
Full version 2012 installer
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe


Web Version 2012 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe


2011
-------
Full Version 2011 Installer – English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe


Web Version 2011 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe


2009
-------
Full Version Installer English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe


Web Version Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Note: Direct download links above are for the English language
installer. For a different country replace the ‘en’ with the local
language code as noted in the following pfd file.
-
http://liveunplugged.files.wordpress...-downloads.pdf

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

BillW50 March 5th 14 01:38 PM

Windows Live Mail
 

"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1
free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover
it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for
a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so she
could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1



Blue[_3_] March 5th 14 02:00 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1
free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover
it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for
a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so she
could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.


Funny, my TB, which is *always* up-to-date, has never froze. And I use
TB with 12 email accounts. I don't use TB for newsgroups, preferring to
keep things separate and using Seamonkey.

--
Blue

SC Tom[_3_] March 5th 14 02:08 PM

Windows Live Mail
 


"Windows8 User" wrote in message
...

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version that
is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit machine. I
had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free upgrade but
it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and see if it
works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a replacement.



I still use that version on Win8.1, and it works better than any of the
newer versions for me. If you check Winston's post, you'll see links to
download it, if you don't already have the full install file.
--
SC Tom



Bob Henson[_2_] March 5th 14 03:30 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1
free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover
it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for
a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so she
could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave all
ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what you were
doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any version of
Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Can you be a closet claustrophobic?

Mike Easter March 5th 14 03:59 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
Ron wrote:
Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.


My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win 8.1.


You are posting here with Tb.

I think (assumed) the form of 'broken' which the OP refers is the
unacceptable condition of newer versions of WLM to serve as a newsreader
for posting, as they don't provide quote levels.

The 2009 version quoted but the 2011 v. did not.


--
Mike Easter

Beauregard T. Shagnasty March 5th 14 04:15 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
Bob Henson wrote:

BillW50 wrote:
I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started
freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave all
ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what you were
doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any version of
Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


Same here. I've been using Thunderbird for email since version 0.2 and
have never experienced any "freeze ups." I have 15 email accounts, and
three news accounts.

It's most likely just another BillW50 self-inflicted individual problem.
Others need not worry.

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

Ken Springer[_2_] March 5th 14 04:26 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 3/5/14 6:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1
free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover
it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for
a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so she
could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.


Hi, Bill.

Are you talking about a dead in its tracks freeze, or the temp hang up
it occasionally has, but recovers from? I get the 2nd one, but never
the first.

But I have long list of things that are buggy, but haven't forked over
the $$ to get Office for Mac and return to Outlook.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.1.0
Thunderbird 24.0

Leala March 5th 14 04:29 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 04-Mar-2014 22:14, Ron wrote:
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.



My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win 8.1.


Mmmm.... You say your WLM is working fine and yet you post with TB.
Should we believe you. (Not)

--
Leala.

Ken Springer[_2_] March 5th 14 04:33 PM

Windows Live Mail
 
On 3/5/14 9:15 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Bob Henson wrote:

BillW50 wrote:
I a wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze ups? I
was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no freezing
with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB started
freezing?
I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave all
ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what you were
doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any version of
Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


Same here. I've been using Thunderbird for email since version 0.2 and
have never experienced any "freeze ups." I have 15 email accounts, and
three news accounts.

It's most likely just another BillW50 self-inflicted individual problem.
Others need not worry.


As I just asked BillW50 in another post, what does he mean by freezing.
Permanent, or temp?

The temp freezing, i.e. it simply stops responding for a few seconds,
and then resumes, is real. There's a recent thread about this In the
Mozilla Thunderbird newsgroup.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 24.0


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