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Steven C. Liu July 19th 04 07:38 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
My home PC, a DELL 2400 running XP Pro SP1, is starting to have its boot
disk fail. In an effort to reload my OS, etc., onto a new disk, I
encountered a problem loading the Dell Support software. It tells me
that I need to first install .NET framework by going to
windowsupdate.com, which is non-existent.

I looked around support.microsoft.com and couldn't find how to obtain
the .NET framework.

Also, does anyone have any ideas on how I can recover the data from my
dying disk? I forget the manufacturer of the disk, but it's an 80Gig-er
IDE drive that now makes a clicking noise when powered. Every once in a
rare while, it will work briefly. Any suggestions?

TIA,

Steve


Nak July 19th 04 07:42 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Any suggestions?

Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
that is making strange sounds.

Nick.



Peter July 19th 04 07:46 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd. As
you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clone
the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.



--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

My home PC, a DELL 2400 running XP Pro SP1, is starting to have its boot
disk fail. In an effort to reload my OS, etc., onto a new disk, I
encountered a problem loading the Dell Support software. It tells me
that I need to first install .NET framework by going to
windowsupdate.com, which is non-existent.

I looked around support.microsoft.com and couldn't find how to obtain
the .NET framework.

Also, does anyone have any ideas on how I can recover the data from my
dying disk? I forget the manufacturer of the disk, but it's an 80Gig-er
IDE drive that now makes a clicking noise when powered. Every once in a
rare while, it will work briefly. Any suggestions?

TIA,

Steve



Steven C. Liu July 19th 04 07:46 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Thanks. Yes, I have already ordered a new HD and am making sure that I
have backups from now on. My problem is that I have data on there that
I really would like to recover. Not a lot, but still important data.

I am contemplating taking the drive apart and seeing if I can fix that
clicking problem.

Steve

Nak wrote:

Any suggestions?



Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
that is making strange sounds.

Nick.




Steven C. Liu July 19th 04 07:46 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve

Peter wrote:
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd.

As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clon
e the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.





Peter July 19th 04 07:48 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Steve,

Don't try that way or all data files may be lost for ever.
If the data files are so important for you, I would suggest you to stop doing anything and just power off the PC and then call the data recovery company ASAP.
Of course, it is expensive and there is no 100% guaranty that the company can save all the data files.

--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve

Peter wrote:
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd

. As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can cl
one the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.






Don MI July 19th 04 07:49 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 

"Steven C. Liu" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve


Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
you not even try.

Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.

Don



Nak July 19th 04 08:26 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Any suggestions?

Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
that is making strange sounds.

Nick.



Peter July 19th 04 08:27 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd. As
you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clone
the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.



--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

My home PC, a DELL 2400 running XP Pro SP1, is starting to have its boot
disk fail. In an effort to reload my OS, etc., onto a new disk, I
encountered a problem loading the Dell Support software. It tells me
that I need to first install .NET framework by going to
windowsupdate.com, which is non-existent.

I looked around support.microsoft.com and couldn't find how to obtain
the .NET framework.

Also, does anyone have any ideas on how I can recover the data from my
dying disk? I forget the manufacturer of the disk, but it's an 80Gig-er
IDE drive that now makes a clicking noise when powered. Every once in a
rare while, it will work briefly. Any suggestions?

TIA,

Steve



Steven C. Liu July 19th 04 08:27 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Thanks. Yes, I have already ordered a new HD and am making sure that I
have backups from now on. My problem is that I have data on there that
I really would like to recover. Not a lot, but still important data.

I am contemplating taking the drive apart and seeing if I can fix that
clicking problem.

Steve

Nak wrote:

Any suggestions?



Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
that is making strange sounds.

Nick.




Steven C. Liu July 19th 04 08:27 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve

Peter wrote:
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd.

As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clon
e the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.





Peter July 19th 04 08:27 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Steve,

Don't try that way or all data files may be lost for ever.
If the data files are so important for you, I would suggest you to stop doing anything and just power off the PC and then call the data recovery company ASAP.
Of course, it is expensive and there is no 100% guaranty that the company can save all the data files.

--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve

Peter wrote:
Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd

. As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can cl
one the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.






Don MI July 19th 04 08:27 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 

"Steven C. Liu" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve


Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
you not even try.

Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.

Don



Steven C. Liu July 20th 04 01:51 AM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Ok, I will *not* try to tinker with that hard drive. Deprive me of some
fun!!! :-(

Thanks for the advice from everyone!

Steve

Don MI wrote:

"Steven C. Liu" wrote in message
.. .

Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve



Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
you not even try.

Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.

Don




Steven C. Liu July 20th 04 07:51 PM

Help installing .NET framework
 
Grrr...

I tried to install my dying HDD as a slave, but it wouldn't let me. I
tried various combos of enable/disable autospin and cable select vs
device 1. I even went to www.hgst.com to verify my jumpering of my
Deskstar IC35L090AVV207-0 ATA/IDE...

Nope, nada, nothing, nyet...

For what it's worth, I was trying to install into an old Dell Optiplex
GX1 whose other disk is a 30GB EIDE disk (I forget the
manufacturer/model) jumpered to device 0 (not CS).

I'm about to give up, yet I don't want to...

TIA,

Steve

Steven C. Liu wrote:
Ok, I will *not* try to tinker with that hard drive. Deprive me of some
fun!!! :-(

Thanks for the advice from everyone!

Steve

Don MI wrote:

"Steven C. Liu" wrote in message
.. .

Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve



Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
you not even try.

Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.

Don






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