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Peter Jason August 10th 18 03:59 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


Paul[_32_] August 10th 18 05:13 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


I don't think the options suggested here are all that good.

https://www.lifewire.com/open-pub-fi...lisher-1074669

Maybe you're already making the best of a bad situation.

*******

According to this, Publisher competes with
Adobe InDesign and QuarkXPress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Publisher

LibreOffice can open your .pub file, but then what ?
Can you save it as a .odt ? The very first thing
to check for, when opening it in LibreOffice, is
seeing whether it opens in Writer or Draw. If it
opens in Writer, you're laughing. If it opens in
Draw, you're basically screwed (in terms of your
mission to change "domains").

Publisher is a page layout tool, not a word processor.

All these programs are living in their own
siloed world. Even if an interchange format exists,
that doesn't mean any other tool has to "respect it"
and do the right thing with it. LibreOffice is the
poster boy for this. You'll see many claims "oh yeah,
LO can open this for you", but when you see what
it's done to it, you'll gag. That's how this stuff
normally works.

Paul

Chris August 10th 18 07:58 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?


Sometimes people need to be educated. Word is not the right tool and they
should be told as much.


Big Al[_5_] August 10th 18 08:14 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 08/09/2018 10:59 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

Could you simply Cntl-A Cntl-C and then into word Cntl-V
Select all, Copy then Paste into word? I've never tried it but I do a
lot of copy paste from recipes on web pages and paste into word to
reformat.


Paul[_32_] August 10th 18 10:01 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
Big Al wrote:
On 08/09/2018 10:59 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

Could you simply Cntl-A Cntl-C and then into word Cntl-V
Select all, Copy then Paste into word? I've never tried it but I do a
lot of copy paste from recipes on web pages and paste into word to
reformat.


We can try a test.

(File is virustotal clean. SHA1 d0864b0724ea4c07ad0800069ee931d5d93513bf)

https://cdn.online-convert.com/examp...ub/example.pub

Mine opened in LibreOffice Draw. The HTML export option
is just awful.

I guess about all I could do here, is use the original
Publisher (which I don't have), then make a PDF. Maybe
their Word could open that.

7-ZIP opens the .pub file and makes it visible as
some folders. If you needed to extract some artwork,
it's a place to start, with no certainty you could go
further. That example.pub file might not be complicated
enough to see all the curveballs Publisher can throw.

The file EscherDelayStm visible in the ZIP,
seems to be an image file, but GIMP wouldn't open
it (maybe because I didn't put an extension on it).
From Win10 Bash shell, "file EscherDelayStm" says
it's "data", which means Linux doesn't know what it is
either. That's putting a damper on my fun.

OK, if you remove the first 25 bytes from EscherDelayStm
with a hex editor, it's a standard JPG. Which then opens
in the tool of your choice. Once edited, you can put
an extension on it and make it EscherDelayStm.jpg so
it'll work better from File Explorer.

But surely the stupid .pub has SVG or some other tricks
up its sleeve. The example file above might not be showing
the true colors of Publisher.

Paul

Philip Herlihy August 10th 18 11:09 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
In article ,
says...

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


Just checked in Publisher 2013 - you can't. There is an option buried
under Export / Change File Type / Other File Type ..
... to save as Word, but it exports only text, it seems. Nor does Word
2013 have an import capability for .pub files. (Odd that Microsoft
don't provide this interchange.)

I certainly get why you'd want to use Publisher to lay out what is more
of a "graphic design" than a "document", but if the end result has to be
Word because that's what the "client" requires, then why not bite the
bullet and create the labels in Word? There won't be much you can do to
a label in Publisher that you can't do in Word.

Of course, they may demand Word because they don't realise how to use
PDF files (or maybe just images) in whatever context they are operating
- or maybe they expect to make their own edits, and Word is all they
have?

--

Phil, London

Jim S[_5_] August 10th 18 11:28 AM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


'Save As' option allows you to save as pdf, doc and many more formats.
--
Jim S

mick August 10th 18 12:40 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 10/08/2018 11:28:22, Jim S wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


'Save As' option allows you to save as pdf, doc and many more formats.


The .doc and .docx formats will only save the text, no images.

--
mick

Big Al[_5_] August 10th 18 01:07 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 08/10/2018 05:01 AM, Paul wrote:
Big Al wrote:
On 08/09/2018 10:59 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

Could you simply Cntl-A Cntl-CÂ* and then into word Cntl-V
Select all, Copy then Paste into word?Â*Â*Â* I've never tried it but I do
a lot of copy paste from recipes on web pages and paste into word to
reformat.


We can try a test.

(File is virustotal clean. SHA1 d0864b0724ea4c07ad0800069ee931d5d93513bf)

https://cdn.online-convert.com/examp...ub/example.pub

Mine opened in LibreOffice Draw. The HTML export option
is just awful.

I guess about all I could do here, is use the original
Publisher (which I don't have), then make a PDF. Maybe
their Word could open that.

7-ZIP opens the .pub file and makes it visible as
some folders. If you needed to extract some artwork,
it's a place to start, with no certainty you could go
further. That example.pub file might not be complicated
enough to see all the curveballs Publisher can throw.

The file EscherDelayStm visible in the ZIP,
seems to be an image file, but GIMP wouldn't open
it (maybe because I didn't put an extension on it).
From Win10 Bash shell, "file EscherDelayStm" says
it's "data", which means Linux doesn't know what it is
either. That's putting a damper on my fun.

OK, if you remove the first 25 bytes from EscherDelayStm
with a hex editor, it's a standard JPG. Which then opens
in the tool of your choice. Once edited, you can put
an extension on it and make it EscherDelayStm.jpg so
it'll work better from File Explorer.

But surely the stupid .pub has SVG or some other tricks
up its sleeve. The example file above might not be showing
the true colors of Publisher.

Â*Â* Paul

I tried the Pub Test and simply did a select all and copy and then
opened Libre Writer and pasted that. It looks identical. Yes, I might
have to change margins as my template has 1/2 inch margins but other
than that it's identical.



dave61430[_2_] August 10th 18 01:08 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just one step?

Peter


I believe the .pdf stands for portable document format. It is primarily
designed to do exactly what you are attempting, namely permit a user to
open a document without regard to how it was originally generated. You
need to tell us why the recipient is unable to simply use the .pdf file.
In my experience, applications that purport to be able to import .pdf
files for further editing are iffy at best.

Jim S[_5_] August 10th 18 01:21 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:40:59 +0100, mick wrote:

On 10/08/2018 11:28:22, Jim S wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


'Save As' option allows you to save as pdf, doc and many more formats.


The .doc and .docx formats will only save the text, no images.


You're right Mick. I forgot.
I usually save mine in .pdf for those who don't have M$Pub and .jpg if they
are to go on a website. Everybody should be able to open .pdf and open OR
edit .jpg to some extent.
--
Jim S

mick August 10th 18 01:57 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 10/08/2018 13:08:22, dave61430 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just one step?

Peter


I believe the .pdf stands for portable document format. It is primarily
designed to do exactly what you are attempting, namely permit a user to
open a document without regard to how it was originally generated. You
need to tell us why the recipient is unable to simply use the .pdf file.
In my experience, applications that purport to be able to import .pdf
files for further editing are iffy at best.


No problem with Serif PagePlus and DrawPlus, although you can only save
as pdf again or the native serif format.

--
mick

mick August 10th 18 02:05 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 10/08/2018 13:21:17, Jim S wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:40:59 +0100, mick wrote:

On 10/08/2018 11:28:22, Jim S wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

'Save As' option allows you to save as pdf, doc and many more formats.


The .doc and .docx formats will only save the text, no images.


You're right Mick. I forgot.
I usually save mine in .pdf for those who don't have M$Pub and .jpg if they
are to go on a website. Everybody should be able to open .pdf and open OR
edit .jpg to some extent.


Yes, pdf is a common format that everyone should be able to read.
The original posters client wanting the file in Word format is just
laziness on their part not wanting to learn other ways AFAIKS.

--
mick

GS August 10th 18 05:52 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.


So then.., why not just design for those people in MS Word???

--
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😉 Good Guy 😉 August 10th 18 09:00 PM

MSoft Publisher to Word?
 
On 10/08/2018 17:52, GS wrote:


So then.., why not just design for those people in MS Word???


Because he's not as intelligent as you are; His IQ is 19; your IQ is
20; There's a marginal difference and so you have marginal advantage
over him.



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