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. . .winston[_3_] May 17th 16 11:15 PM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 

Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,
contains all the security and non-security fixes released since the
release of Windows 7 SP1 that are suitable for general distribution, up
through April 2016. Install this one update, and then you only need new
updates released after April 2016.

And since this update can be injected into Windows 7 SP1 media, it’s
fully supported to mount a Windows 7 SP1 image (WIM file), then inject
this update into it. See
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744559(v=ws.10).aspx for
the details of how to do this.
/qp

X86 is 316 MB
X64 is 477 MB

Technet article contains additional information on monthly rollups for
non-security updates.


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience


Jason May 17th 16 11:22 PM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article

Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of the
whole thing.



Mayayana May 17th 16 11:31 PM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Anyone who's trying to avoid Win10 BEWA

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/0...ows-7#comments

This may not be a convenience.



Paul May 18th 16 12:46 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article
Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of the
whole thing.


The catalog server uses ActiveX plugins. In particular, it
allows you to click multiple items, and put them in your
download gueue. For this particular update, it also
allows you to specify a target directory. I put the
package on my D: drive, which has a bit more room
for stuff like this.

Sounds like the web page is also doing browser sniffing,
if it is rejecting IE11. I would think IE11 still supports
ActiveX.

Since the Edge browser (Win10) doesn't support ActiveX, you
can't even visit that page with Edge, as it would be
treated as a "foreign" browser.

You will also have to learn to "love" servers like
this, because Microsoft has promised to remove downloads
from regular web pages.

Paul

Z. May 18th 16 12:50 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Mayayana wrote:
Anyone who's trying to avoid Win10 BEWA

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/0...ows-7#comments

This may not be a convenience.



+1

--
Z.

Nil[_5_] May 18th 16 01:18 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
On 17 May 2016, "Z." wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Mayayana wrote:
Anyone who's trying to avoid Win10 BEWA

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/0...ows-7#comments

This may not be a convenience.


+1


This is the question that came to my mind. It seems the
"convenience" is for the benefit of Microsoft's advertising and
upgrade world-domination-at-all-cost machine, not for the user.

philo May 18th 16 02:16 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
On 05/17/2016 05:22 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article

Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of the
whole thing.




I tried it from a full updated Win7 machine and can say:
Same here. it said to alternatively go to the Microsoft Download center
but when I went there...I could see no place to get the rollup


Does anyone have a link that actually works?

philo May 18th 16 02:23 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
On 05/17/2016 08:16 PM, philo wrote:
On 05/17/2016 05:22 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article

Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/


qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of the
whole thing.




I tried it from a full updated Win7 machine and can say:
Same here. it said to alternatively go to the Microsoft Download center
but when I went there...I could see no place to get the rollup


Does anyone have a link that actually works?




Fixed it , had to go to "Tools" and toggle the active X setting

. . .winston[_3_] May 18th 16 03:06 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Paul wrote on 05/17/2016 7:46 PM:
Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article
Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/


qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of
the whole thing.


The catalog server uses ActiveX plugins. In particular, it
allows you to click multiple items, and put them in your
download gueue. For this particular update, it also
allows you to specify a target directory. I put the
package on my D: drive, which has a bit more room
for stuff like this.

Sounds like the web page is also doing browser sniffing,
if it is rejecting IE11. I would think IE11 still supports
ActiveX.

Since the Edge browser (Win10) doesn't support ActiveX, you
can't even visit that page with Edge, as it would be
treated as a "foreign" browser.

You will also have to learn to "love" servers like
this, because Microsoft has promised to remove downloads
from regular web pages.

Paul


Fyi...since this rolloup contains current through April 2016...and
contains security and non-security releases/fixes it will be interesting
to see if anyone can actually validate whether 3035583 is included(which
wasn't a security or non-security fix) or just claim '5583' is included.

Let the conspiracy theorist come forward g


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

. . .winston[_3_] May 18th 16 03:07 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Jason wrote on 05/17/2016 6:22 PM:

When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of the
whole thing.


Both links works fine here on IE11 and SeaMonkey.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Jason May 18th 16 03:16 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
On Tue, 17 May 2016 20:16:05 -0500 "philo" wrote in
article






I tried it from a full updated Win7 machine and can say:
Same here. it said to alternatively go to the Microsoft Download center
but when I went there...I could see no place to get the rollup

Same here - couldn't find it.

I looked mostly out of idle curiosity since I generally allow MS updates
and security-related updates are all installed as far as I know.

Paul May 18th 16 05:09 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
.. . .winston wrote:
Paul wrote on 05/17/2016 7:46 PM:
Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article
Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/



qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,
When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of
the whole thing.


The catalog server uses ActiveX plugins. In particular, it
allows you to click multiple items, and put them in your
download gueue. For this particular update, it also
allows you to specify a target directory. I put the
package on my D: drive, which has a bit more room
for stuff like this.

Sounds like the web page is also doing browser sniffing,
if it is rejecting IE11. I would think IE11 still supports
ActiveX.

Since the Edge browser (Win10) doesn't support ActiveX, you
can't even visit that page with Edge, as it would be
treated as a "foreign" browser.

You will also have to learn to "love" servers like
this, because Microsoft has promised to remove downloads
from regular web pages.

Paul


Fyi...since this rolloup contains current through April 2016...and
contains security and non-security releases/fixes it will be interesting
to see if anyone can actually validate whether 3035583 is included(which
wasn't a security or non-security fix) or just claim '5583' is included.

Let the conspiracy theorist come forward g


The last time I checked, '583 was not available from
the catalog server as a separate update.

I don't see a reason why it would be included in a
general-purpose rollup. Since '583 has pre-requisites,
there is no reason to deploy it everywhere. That's why
it is delivered directly via Windows Update. But
CEIP stuff, sure. That's for everybody.

Paul

. . .winston[_3_] May 18th 16 06:15 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Mayayana wrote on 05/17/2016 6:31 PM:
Anyone who's trying to avoid Win10 BEWA

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/0...ows-7#comments

This may not be a convenience.


In what way ?


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

VanguardLH[_2_] May 18th 16 06:17 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
winston wrote:

Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,
contains all the security and non-security fixes released since the
release of Windows 7 SP1 that are suitable for general distribution, up
through April 2016. Install this one update, and then you only need new
updates released after April 2016.

And since this update can be injected into Windows 7 SP1 media, it¢s
fully supported to mount a Windows 7 SP1 image (WIM file), then inject
this update into it. See
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744559(v=ws.10).aspx for
the details of how to do this.
/qp

X86 is 316 MB
X64 is 477 MB

Technet article contains additional information on monthly rollups for
non-security updates.


Just Microsoft trying another tactic to install their non-security GWX
lureware, spyware (telemetry), and non-applicable updates (for software
that is NOT installed on your computer). By shoving all updates into a
"rollup", they hope to forestall by nuisance anyone from reviewing each
update to see which they really need and want. Since Windows 7 main
support ceased back in January 2015, the only updates Microsoft should
be pushing further are only security updates (until 2020 when extended
support ends).

We¢re happy to announce today that we¢re making available a new
convenience rollup for Windows 7 SP1 that will help. This convenience
rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3125574,
contains all the security and non-security fixes released since the
release of Windows 7 SP1 that are suitable for general distribution,
up through April 2016.

The GWX lureware is a non-security update. I suspect the first rolloup
of mixed "security and non-security fixes" will include KB3035583 (GWX).
Thereafter they seem to split their rollups into security ones separate
from non-security ones. Of course, and just as before, there are
probably lots of non-security updates that you do want. Microsoft has
lost the trust of their customers by their aggressive and invasive
marketing and lureware to Windows 10 migration.

Someone would have to UNroll the 1st mixed (security and non-security)
rollup and also UNroll all subsequent non-security rollups to ensure
Microsoft's lureware (and other spying, er, telemetry and migration
updates that have nothing to do with Windows 7 only) is not included.
To be safe, ALL rollups would require analysis. So, great, users have
to somehow disassemble every rollup pushed out by Microsoft hereafter to
ensure Microsoft's lureware doesn't show up, or perform a full image
backup before installing a rollup and possibly (probably) restore the
image after checking if the lureware and spying updates showed up.
Looks like job for enthusiasts that use a Windows 7 guest OS inside a
virtual machine to see what the rollups mash together for updates.

I'll continue using WSUSoffline to roll my own repository of Window 7
updates. I can delete the ones that I don't want from its repository
rather than install a rollup, see only afterward what got installed, and
either uninstall some individually (if possible) or restore the image.

Looks like it is time to just disable the BITS and AU services and
forget about any future updates for Windows 7. Or, if available, I'll
hide each rollup and continue inspecting each offered individual update
to determine those that are really needed. Of course, with this new
"convenience" scheme, they might stop providing individual update
downloads and require you to get periodic rollups.

Bad enough you have to dodge the malware without also having to dodge
the manufacturer of the OS.

. . .winston[_3_] May 18th 16 07:55 AM

Windows 7 SP1 Rollup Update
 
Paul wrote on 05/18/2016 12:09 AM:
. . .winston wrote:
Paul wrote on 05/17/2016 7:46 PM:
Jason wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 18:15:51 -0400 ". . .winston"
wrote in article
Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/05/17/simplifying-upd=ates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/



qp
This convenience rollup package, available to download from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574,
When I link to the page it tells me that I must be running IE 6 or
later. I have IE 11..... If they can't get this right, I'm leary of
the whole thing.

The catalog server uses ActiveX plugins. In particular, it
allows you to click multiple items, and put them in your
download gueue. For this particular update, it also
allows you to specify a target directory. I put the
package on my D: drive, which has a bit more room
for stuff like this.

Sounds like the web page is also doing browser sniffing,
if it is rejecting IE11. I would think IE11 still supports
ActiveX.

Since the Edge browser (Win10) doesn't support ActiveX, you
can't even visit that page with Edge, as it would be
treated as a "foreign" browser.

You will also have to learn to "love" servers like
this, because Microsoft has promised to remove downloads
from regular web pages.

Paul


Fyi...since this rolloup contains current through April 2016...and
contains security and non-security releases/fixes it will be
interesting to see if anyone can actually validate whether 3035583 is
included(which wasn't a security or non-security fix) or just claim
'5583' is included.

Let the conspiracy theorist come forward g


The last time I checked, '583 was not available from
the catalog server as a separate update.

I don't see a reason why it would be included in a
general-purpose rollup. Since '583 has pre-requisites,
there is no reason to deploy it everywhere. That's why
it is delivered directly via Windows Update. But
CEIP stuff, sure. That's for everybody.

Paul


:)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3125574


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience


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