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OG August 10th 18 03:43 AM

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Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


David E. Ross[_2_] August 10th 18 04:08 AM

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On 8/9/2018 7:43 PM, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


Have you tried asking at the mozilla.support.firefox newgroup? For
that, you need to create a free account in SeaMonkey for the
news.mozilla.org news server.

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Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump and Roseanne Barr.

Mayayana August 10th 18 03:02 PM

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"OG" wrote

| Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
| restart !!! ?
|

You don't seem to have provided enough detail here.
Latest Firefox ESR? Why not say the version. I'm using
the latest Firefox ESR.... for v. 52.
And what's the last download folder? If you go into
Options you can choose to have FF ask where to put
downloads. There's no reason to let FF decide to put
them somewhere down in the depths of the user folder
catacombs.

As David said, you can also ask in the Mozilla newsgroup.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend that. I was there for
awhile but it's run by zealots who don't like anyone
using a critical tone in reference to Mozilla products.
If they don't like your question it just won't show up.
Their toys, their rules.



R.Wieser August 10th 18 06:35 PM

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OG,

Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


Tools - Downloads - rightclick the (last downloaded) file - click "open
containing folder"

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



R.Wieser August 10th 18 06:48 PM

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OG,

Another method:

Open "about:Config" and put "browser.download.lastDir" in the searchbar

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



JJ[_11_] August 10th 18 08:26 PM

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:43:41 -0700, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


It's Firefox bug. But not because the "Open Containing Folder" icon doesn't
work. It's because Firefox doesn't remove that icon if the downloaded file
is no longer present in the containing folder.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726451

Quote:

When the target file is removed from disk, clicking on a download item does
nothing. The issue is that we can't detect whether the file is still there
on hover, for performance reasons. Thus, detect missing files on click,
and/or with an asynchronous background process when the panel opens, and
assume the file is available until otherwise detected.
For performance reason my azz. They're just lazy. The icon clearly says
"Open Containing Folder". So, it's the folder that needs to be opened. Not
the file. The presence of the file is irrelevant.

And apparently, that same icon also has problem in Linux too.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1467084

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1469052

And this one is over 6 years old without being either resolved, or rejected.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746780

R.Wieser August 10th 18 09:06 PM

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JJ,

It's Firefox bug. But not because the "Open Containing Folder" icon
doesn't work. It's because Firefox doesn't remove that icon if the
downloaded file is no longer present in the containing folder.


Its really a bug ? (yes it is, if I may believe that report). I always
thought it was on purpose: Why would I need to go to files download
directory if its not there anymore ...

The icon clearly says "Open Containing Folder".


On my FF 52 ESR that entry is grayed out when the file isn't there anymore.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



Paul[_32_] August 10th 18 09:14 PM

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JJ wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:43:41 -0700, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


It's Firefox bug. But not because the "Open Containing Folder" icon doesn't
work. It's because Firefox doesn't remove that icon if the downloaded file
is no longer present in the containing folder.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726451

Quote:

When the target file is removed from disk, clicking on a download item does
nothing. The issue is that we can't detect whether the file is still there
on hover, for performance reasons. Thus, detect missing files on click,
and/or with an asynchronous background process when the panel opens, and
assume the file is available until otherwise detected.


For performance reason my azz. They're just lazy. The icon clearly says
"Open Containing Folder". So, it's the folder that needs to be opened. Not
the file. The presence of the file is irrelevant.

And apparently, that same icon also has problem in Linux too.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1467084

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1469052

And this one is over 6 years old without being either resolved, or rejected.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746780


At least some of that information is kept in
one of the sqlite databases. There are multiple
databases, and an overall schema defines the
linkage between databases.

You can use sqlite3.exe to dump a database.

sqlite3.exe some.sqlite .dump some.txt

If the output contains two lines of text, you
likely need a later version.

PRAGMA foreign_keys=OFF;
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
CREATE TABLE moz_places ( id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, url LONGVARCHAR, title LONGVARCHAR ...
INSERT INTO "moz_places" VALUES(1,'https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/central/' ...
INSERT INTO "moz_places" VALUES(2,'http://www.ubuntu.com/',NULL,'moc.utnubu.www.' ...
COMMIT;

One of those text outputs, has around 91000 lines in it.

*******

This is a sample dump of "downloads.sqlite".
For the version you're running right now, you'd
repeat the exercise, and see how yours are stored.

sqlite3.exe downloads.sqlite .dump downloads.txt

INSERT INTO "moz_downloads" VALUES(139,'10-Band Graphic Equalizer.pdf',
'http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1118&context=eesp',
'file:///C:/Downloads/10-Band%20Graphic%20Equalizer.pdf','',
1477204721921875,1477204725968750,1,NULL,'',
1123399,1123399,'application/pdf',
'C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox',0,0);

You can see the folder it was put in, is remembered.
As is the URL it was downloaded from.

It's possible Firefox has to cross-reference the "139" value with
one of the other databases, to get the URL of the web page
where the download link is contained.

Naming convention:

http://sqlite.org/2018/sqlite-tools-...86-3230100.zip
https://www.sqlite.org/2018/sqlite-t...86-3240000.zip

That's a tool so you can figure out whether
they actually do still harbor the necessary data.

Paul

Mark Lloyd[_2_] August 10th 18 09:15 PM

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On 08/09/2018 10:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/9/2018 7:43 PM, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


Have you tried asking at the mozilla.support.firefox newgroup? For
that, you need to create a free account in SeaMonkey for the
news.mozilla.org news server.


I use this server (news.mozilla.org) frequently, and there's no account
requirement there. Perhaps you were referring to setting up your newsreader.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Money cannot buy happiness, but it lets you be unhappy in nice places."

Char Jackson August 10th 18 09:20 PM

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 19:48:56 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

OG,

Another method:

Open "about:Config" and put "browser.download.lastDir" in the searchbar


On PCs that I haven't configured, I just click the big 'down arrow' icon
to the right of the search box and go from there.

--

Char Jackson

Char Jackson August 10th 18 10:11 PM

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 15:20:53 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 19:48:56 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

OG,

Another method:

Open "about:Config" and put "browser.download.lastDir" in the searchbar


On PCs that I haven't configured, I just click the big 'down arrow' icon
to the right of the search box and go from there.


Oops, never mind. I misunderstood the OP's question.

--

Char Jackson

David E. Ross[_2_] August 10th 18 10:38 PM

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On 8/10/2018 1:15 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 08/09/2018 10:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/9/2018 7:43 PM, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


Have you tried asking at the mozilla.support.firefox newgroup? For
that, you need to create a free account in SeaMonkey for the
news.mozilla.org news server.


I use this server (news.mozilla.org) frequently, and there's no account
requirement there. Perhaps you were referring to setting up your newsreader.


In my newsreader, each setup for a NNTP (network news transfer protocol)
server is termed an "account".

--
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http://www.rossde.com

Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump and Roseanne Barr.

VanguardLH[_2_] August 10th 18 10:50 PM

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David E. Ross wrote:

OG wrote:

Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


Have you tried asking at the mozilla.support.firefox newgroup?


That's if you can past their moderator (Chris Ilias) who has severely
crippled that newsgroup with his prolonged absence (so pending articles
will expire), doesn't check e-mail status of submissions via their
NNTP-to-email gateway (yep, it's an mailing list first with an NNTP
gateway added), and when pointed out that he wasn't following Mozilla's
guidelines for moderators then managed to get that page removed.

If my submissions show up, they are delayed by 14 hours, or more. That
means discussions rather jerky. Some show up right away (I suspect
those are submitted through the email server rathe rather than through
the NNTP gateway or are on Chris' crony whitelist). If a subsmission
(for its new content, like in a reply) is long, like over 100 words,
Chris won't read it, so the submission expires or gets rejected. Chris
has an odd sense of what constitutes "on topic": you can ask for help
about Firefox but you cannot discuss Firefox (which he claims should go
in the general newsgroup but that discusses EVERYTHING regarding
Mozilla, not just Firefox). Even if you try to help someone by
explaining how Firefox works or why it does what it does, that
constitutes being off-topic to Chris. I can spend a lot of time in
researching and composing a reply to help someone but it has only a 15%
chance of showing up in the Firefox newsgroup. Respondents give up
because they waste a lot of time trying to help someone but cannot get
past Chris' bias and laziness.

J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_] August 10th 18 11:44 PM

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In message , Mark Lloyd
writes:
On 08/09/2018 10:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/9/2018 7:43 PM, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?

Have you tried asking at the mozilla.support.firefox newgroup? For
that, you need to create a free account in SeaMonkey for the
news.mozilla.org news server.


I use this server (news.mozilla.org) frequently, and there's no account
requirement there. Perhaps you were referring to setting up your
newsreader.

There _is_ a requirement to register (or something) to use the
_newsgroup_ mozilla.support.firefox on the mozilla _server_. That server
does also carry unmoderated 'groups, such as mozilla.general .

(You don't of course have to set up the account in SeaMonkey - you can
do it in any news client software that is compatible with the server,
which I think means any that will do NNTP.)

The suggestion of asking in the Firefox support 'group is a good one.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.

J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_] August 11th 18 12:06 AM

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In message , Paul
writes:
JJ wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:43:41 -0700, OG wrote:
Why is there no way to open the last download folder after a firefox
restart !!! ?


I don't understand the question. I can always open any folder that
exists (apart from a few that the system doesn't want me to have access
to, like System Volume Information) using Windows Explorer, so I presume
that's _not_ what you mean.

I have Firefox set to always ask me where to put downloads; however,
I've noticed that it remembers several starting points (for when it's
doing the asking) - I think it remembers one per source host.
[]
You can see the folder it was put in, is remembered.
As is the URL it was downloaded from.


That would explain what I've found. In other words, if I download
another file from a host I've downloaded from before, it asks me where
to put it, but starts at where I put it last time I downloaded from that
host.
[]
Paul

--
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The motto of the Royal Society is: 'Take nobody's word for it'. Scepticism has
value. - Brian Cox, RT 2015/3/14-20


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