Automatic updates not happening
 

My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.

The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for
the night time.

The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart.

Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user
needing to intervene?

Automatic updates not happening
 

Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.

The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for
the night time.

The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart.

Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user
needing to intervene?


Win10 doesn't speak English re Updates.
I'm thinking of learning Arabic in the hope that that might work (:-

The need to manually restart has tripped me up many times. No
communication from Win10, and it's just sitting there smiling
idiotically. So then, after many such events I've just learned to hit
the Restart button optimistically (no pun intended, man).

Ed

Automatic updates not happening
 

On Thu, 10 May 2018 12:10:01 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote:

Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.

The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for
the night time.

The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart.

Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user
needing to intervene?


Win10 doesn't speak English re Updates.
I'm thinking of learning Arabic in the hope that that might work (:-

The need to manually restart has tripped me up many times. No
communication from Win10, and it's just sitting there smiling
idiotically. So then, after many such events I've just learned to hit
the Restart button optimistically (no pun intended, man).

Ed

Thank you, Ed, I'm glad it isn't just me! There must be millions of Win10 users who leave their
machines running for weeks without restarting which means the OS will not be updated as a result.

Automatic updates not happening
 

Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.

The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for
the night time.

The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart.

Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user
needing to intervene?

It looks like it's a scheduled task of some sort. It
belongs to the Update Orchestrator. Your fix isn't
here, and this is only peripherally related.
Update Orchestrator is part of the delivery system.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-p...alling-updates

You can turn on "History Recording for all Tasks" if you want. In
this case though, I don't think it records the "Not" of the trigger
condition. It would only record if the Task ran or not.

https://s14.postimg.cc/3rwjk9hn5/Tas...er_History.gif

*******

https://superuser.com/questions/5329...-automatically

powercfg -energy

That gives a report, which can include why a computer isn't
sleeping. Something as simple as having VLC open could account
for your symptoms (a multimedia task that stops wake timers
or something).

Try this for more info

powercfg /?

That would work best from an Administrator command prompt window.

Using the right click menu, if yours still says "Powershell",
you can simply type "cmd" into the Administrator one, to
start an administrator command prompt session.

Paul

Automatic updates not happening
 

On Thu, 10 May 2018 10:07:37 -0400, Paul wrote:

Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.

The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for
the night time.

The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart.

Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user
needing to intervene?

It looks like it's a scheduled task of some sort. It
belongs to the Update Orchestrator. Your fix isn't
here, and this is only peripherally related.
Update Orchestrator is part of the delivery system.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-p...alling-updates

You can turn on "History Recording for all Tasks" if you want. In
this case though, I don't think it records the "Not" of the trigger
condition. It would only record if the Task ran or not.

https://s14.postimg.cc/3rwjk9hn5/Tas...er_History.gif

*******

https://superuser.com/questions/5329...-automatically

powercfg -energy

That gives a report, which can include why a computer isn't
sleeping. Something as simple as having VLC open could account
for your symptoms (a multimedia task that stops wake timers
or something).

Try this for more info

powercfg /?

That would work best from an Administrator command prompt window.

Using the right click menu, if yours still says "Powershell",
you can simply type "cmd" into the Administrator one, to
start an administrator command prompt session.

Paul

This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered
to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa.

It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless.

Automatic updates not happening
 

Optimist wrote:


This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered
to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa.

It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless.

On that, we can agree.

Paul

Automatic updates not happening
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 00:39:40 -0400, Paul wrote:

Optimist wrote:


This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered
to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa.

It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless.

On that, we can agree.

I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to keep shifting
the active hours so as to prevent a reboot, but my laptop still reboots
after major updates.

Automatic updates not happening
 

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...

I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to
keep shifting the active hours so as to prevent a reboot,
but my laptop still reboots after major updates.


Active Hours only means when W10 won't do something.

Restart after an update install is hard-coded and will be done auto, after a
preset # days requiring a restart, or end-user attempting to override the
need.


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ms mvp windows 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018

Automatic updates not happening
 

On Tue, 15 May 2018 00:46:53 -0400, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
.. .

I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to
keep shifting the active hours so as to prevent a reboot,
but my laptop still reboots after major updates.


Active Hours only means when W10 won't do something.

Restart after an update install is hard-coded and will be done auto, after a
preset # days requiring a restart, or end-user attempting to override the
need.

Thanks for the explanation. Why on earth doesn't W10 just do a restart as when the current active
hours period expires?