Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

"Unlocker" reports it can not delete the file.

Two different "delete on reboot" utilities have not removed it.

Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Searching for it as a startup item with Autoruns does not find it.

Chkdsk reports no errors on the drive.

So how do I remove this file?

-dan z-



__

__
Those who live by the sword
get shot by those who don't.

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

From: "slate_leeper"


XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

"Unlocker" reports it can not delete the file.

Two different "delete on reboot" utilities have not removed it.

Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Searching for it as a startup item with Autoruns does not find it.

Chkdsk reports no errors on the drive.

So how do I remove this file?


Please be MORE specific such as the fully qualified name and path to the
file in question.

In the mean time... Use Sysintgern als Process Explorer.

Go to; Find -- File handle or DLL
enter the name of the file in question and see what running process may have
that file's File Handle held open.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

"slate_leeper" wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.
...
So how do I remove this file?

And the mystery file is named what? And in what path? For all me know
from the lack of info on the file is that you are attempting to delete a
system file.

__

__
Those who live by the sword
get shot by those who don't.

Learn how to properly configure your NNTP client to add a signature.
Yours was *not* a signature at all but instead in the body of your post
(so your wannabe signature became fluff *in* the body of your post).
Two underscores and a newline is NOT a proper signature delimiter line.
A correct sigdash line is "-- \n" (dash dash space newline). Adding 2
invalid signature delimiter lines (your 2 underscores) also doesn't
define a proper sigdash line.

You are using Forte Agent. According to its own users, that client does
NOT automatically insert a proper signature delimiter. YOU have to add
the "-- " line at the start of your signature content.

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

snip



First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from there.
If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure you will be
able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first just in case it
ends up being some file needed for booting)

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP3

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On 09/06/2012 03:55 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.



Thanks for the info...


--
https://www.createspace.com/3707686

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote in
article ...

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs, including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:27:20 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:

From: "slate_leeper"


XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

"Unlocker" reports it can not delete the file.

Two different "delete on reboot" utilities have not removed it.

Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Searching for it as a startup item with Autoruns does not find it.

Chkdsk reports no errors on the drive.

So how do I remove this file?


Please be MORE specific such as the fully qualified name and path to the
file in question.

c:\Program FIles\cleanmem\mini_monitor.exe

In the mean time... Use Sysintgern als Process Explorer.

Go to; Find -- File handle or DLL
enter the name of the file in question and see what running process may have
that file's File Handle held open.

Already done. From above:
Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Thanks for the reply.



__
Those who live by the sword
get shot by those who don't.

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

From: "slate_leeper"

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:27:20 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:

From: "slate_leeper"

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

"Unlocker" reports it can not delete the file.

Two different "delete on reboot" utilities have not removed it.

Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Searching for it as a startup item with Autoruns does not find it.

Chkdsk reports no errors on the drive.

So how do I remove this file?

Please be MORE specific such as the fully qualified name and path to the
file in question.

c:\Program FIles\cleanmem\mini_monitor.exe

In the mean time... Use Sysintgern als Process Explorer.

Go to; Find -- File handle or DLL
enter the name of the file in question and see what running process may
have
that file's File Handle held open.

Already done. From above:
Searching with Process Explorer for the process does not find it
running.

Thanks for the reply.


What is the OS ? { Home vs. Pro, etc... }

Have you checked the permissions on that file such that you can delete it ?

Have you contacted http://www.pcwintech.com/ support ?


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:54:53 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote in
article ...

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs, including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant

+1

You nailed it.

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

On 09/07/2012 06:54 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote in
article ...

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs, including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant



Now that I think of it you are right...
the user must have made some other error.
Not only is it true about Linux using a swap partition rather than a
swap file...It would certainly not setup anything on an NTFS drive

In all the years I've used Linux live cd's they never had any effect on
the Windows install other than what I chose to modify

--
https://www.createspace.com/3707686

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

"philo" wrote in message
...
On 09/07/2012 06:54 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote
in
article ...

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not
locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in "unable
to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't
have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live
doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea why
Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And when I
booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying
Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't
play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs,
including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have
cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant



Now that I think of it you are right...
the user must have made some other error.
Not only is it true about Linux using a swap partition rather than a
swap file...It would certainly not setup anything on an NTFS drive

In all the years I've used Linux live cd's they never had any effect
on the Windows install other than what I chose to modify

Exactly. I too have been using a variety of Linux Live CDs for over a
decade, and they simply do not touch the hard drives or mount them for
anything, unless and until the user allows it.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

In ,
philo typed:
On 09/07/2012 06:54 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote
in article ...

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not
locked. However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results
in "unable to delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't
have a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live
doesn't care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no
idea why Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does.
And when I booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window
saying Windows Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE.
As they don't play games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs,
including Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a
decade and what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has
never happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have
cared a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant



Now that I think of it you are right...
the user must have made some other error.
Not only is it true about Linux using a swap partition rather than a
swap file...It would certainly not setup anything on an NTFS drive

In all the years I've used Linux live cd's they never had any effect
on the Windows install other than what I chose to modify

Nope, Zaphod is mistaken and owes us an apology. Paul and I discussed
this in great length a couple of years back. And no, it isn't user
error, unless you count booting Ubuntu Live as user error.

It happened on this very machine back in 2009, and booting up Ubuntu
Live 8.10 from a SD card. This XP has the swapfile turned off because it
runs from a SSD. And booting Ubuntu Live and doing absolutely nothing
from it except shutting it down once it is loaded. Then booting XP back
up and the background of the desktop shows up, no taskbar yet, and a
window saying Windows Installer and nothing else and it stills there
forever.

You can access the Task Manager by ALT-CTRL-DEL, but there is not much
you can do there. I quickly discovered if I rename iband.dll (a toolbar
gadget from US Robotics) I could get XP to boot. Although to get iband
working again, I had to restore XP from a backup. Paul explained that
Ubuntu Live could use the Windows swapfile for it's own use. And creates
one if it is missing.

I am sure I can demonstrate this anywhere at anytime. As it happens
every single time it is tried. And one has to question about the ethnics
of Linux code. As if they are willing to do this behind the user's back,
what else are they capable of doing?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

In ,
Char Jackson typed:
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:54:53 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote
in article ...

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't
have a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live
doesn't care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no
idea why Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does.
And when I booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window
saying Windows Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE.
As they don't play games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs,
including Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a
decade and what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has
never happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux
Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by
default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end and
decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even if it did
use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a file on the
file system separate from anything else and Windows wouldn't have
cared a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant

+1

You nailed it.

Nope you both are wrong and owe us an apology.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

Undeletable file. I'm stumped.
 

In ,
glee typed:
"philo" wrote in message
...
On 09/07/2012 06:54 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote
in
article ...

In ,
philo wrote:
On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not
locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in
"unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't
have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live
doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea
why Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And
when I booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window
saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't
play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs,
including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second,
Linux Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap
*file* by default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have
completely flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep
end and decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even
if it did use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a
file on the file system separate from anything else and Windows
wouldn't have cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant



Now that I think of it you are right...
the user must have made some other error.
Not only is it true about Linux using a swap partition rather than a
swap file...It would certainly not setup anything on an NTFS drive

In all the years I've used Linux live cd's they never had any effect
on the Windows install other than what I chose to modify

Exactly. I too have been using a variety of Linux Live CDs for over a
decade, and they simply do not touch the hard drives or mount them for
anything, unless and until the user allows it.

That isn't true Glen. The one who compiles Linux has that and more
opinions available. I take it you never compiled Linux before?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2