Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifi sources
 

I'm using win7 on the laptop, but posting to win10 also because you guys
know things too!

The little window that opens from my systray icon says I'm connnected
and connected to the internet, and email and newsgroups work okay, but
neither Firefox nor Opera will load a webpage.

In the systray is an image of 5 bars, getting taller to the right. My
recollection is that these used to be filled with a color when I was on
the net. Now they are only the outlines of the bars. Is my
recollection correct. What does it mean if there is only the outline?

Or maybe it's not the systray icon itself but the list of possibile wifi
signals that get colored in? In that case, the wifi it's connected to
is green at the top of all 5 bars but others from my n'bors have only 2
or 3 bars.

I haven't changed any settings but there continue to be MS updates and
there might have been one since last May. Could one have changed
something? Could this be about firewalls?




My laptop was working fine last May and I didn't use it until 2 weeks
ago, at a hotel for a night. I thought I was connected to the hotel's
wifi, but I definitely know how to connect to my phone, which I've used
many times as a hotspot. I could finally get email and newsgroups but
not the web. Now I'm home and the computer connected automatically to
my home wifi, and same problem.

I have to go on another trip in a week and if this is a hardware
problem, I'll have to hurry up and buy another laptop. I haven't
dropped the thing, so I'm hoping it's a software problem that we/you can
solve.

Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifi sources
 

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:52 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win7 on the laptop, but posting to win10 also because you guys
know things too!

The little window that opens from my systray icon says I'm connnected
and connected to the internet, and email and newsgroups work okay, but
neither Firefox nor Opera will load a webpage.

It gets as far as "Performing a TLS handshake with [the url].



In the systray is an image of 5 bars, getting taller to the right. My
recollection is that these used to be filled with a color when I was on
the net. Now they are only the outlines of the bars. Is my
recollection correct. What does it mean if there is only the outline?

Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifisources
 

On 12/02/2019 21:20, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:52 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win7 on the laptop, but posting to win10 also because you guys
know things too!

The little window that opens from my systray icon says I'm connnected
and connected to the internet, and email and newsgroups work okay, but
neither Firefox nor Opera will load a webpage.

It gets as far as "Performing a TLS handshake with [the url].



In the systray is an image of 5 bars, getting taller to the right. My
recollection is that these used to be filled with a color when I was on
the net. Now they are only the outlines of the bars. Is my
recollection correct. What does it mean if there is only the outline?

It means you have a very weak signal and the connection speed is
therefore very low. Email and newsgroups work because they use only text
requiring a very small download whereas these days even the simplest
normal website is full of junk requiring a major download.

If you try a text only website it will probably work OK, such as
http://lite.cnn.io/en

Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifi sources
 

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:44:49 +0000, MikeS
wrote:

On 12/02/2019 21:20, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:52 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win7 on the laptop, but posting to win10 also because you guys
know things too!

The little window that opens from my systray icon says I'm connnected
and connected to the internet, and email and newsgroups work okay, but
neither Firefox nor Opera will load a webpage.

It gets as far as "Performing a TLS handshake with [the url].



In the systray is an image of 5 bars, getting taller to the right. My
recollection is that these used to be filled with a color when I was on
the net. Now they are only the outlines of the bars. Is my
recollection correct. What does it mean if there is only the outline?

It means you have a very weak signal and the connection speed is
therefore very low. Email and newsgroups work because they use only text
requiring a very small download whereas these days even the simplest
normal website is full of junk requiring a major download.

If you try a text only website it will probably work OK, such as
http://lite.cnn.io/en

You're right!!

SOLVED Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifi sources
 

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:49:43 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:44:49 +0000, MikeS
wrote:

On 12/02/2019 21:20, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:52 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win7 on the laptop, but posting to win10 also because you guys
know things too!

The little window that opens from my systray icon says I'm connnected
and connected to the internet, and email and newsgroups work okay, but
neither Firefox nor Opera will load a webpage.

It gets as far as "Performing a TLS handshake with [the url].



In the systray is an image of 5 bars, getting taller to the right. My
recollection is that these used to be filled with a color when I was on
the net. Now they are only the outlines of the bars. Is my
recollection correct. What does it mean if there is only the outline?

It means you have a very weak signal and the connection speed is
therefore very low. Email and newsgroups work because they use only text
requiring a very small download whereas these days even the simplest
normal website is full of junk requiring a major download.

If you try a text only website it will probably work OK, such as
http://lite.cnn.io/en

You're right!!

So I moved closer to the router, and it worked better.

I thought I was close enough.

I'm like an idiot newbie. :-()

SOLVED Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same fromthree wifi sources
 

micky wrote:

You're right!!

So I moved closer to the router, and it worked better.

I thought I was close enough.

I'm like an idiot newbie. :-()

But, you got a fix in 55 minutes.
A noobie couldn't do that.

A noobie would still be throwing the laptop
down the front steps in the hopes a cracked
screen would fix it :-/

Paul

SOLVED Can get email and newsgroups but not web, same from three wifi sources
 

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 19:25:08 -0500, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:

You're right!!

So I moved closer to the router, and it worked better.

I thought I was close enough.

I'm like an idiot newbie. :-()

But, you got a fix in 55 minutes.
A noobie couldn't do that.

A noobie would still be throwing the laptop
down the front steps in the hopes a cracked
screen would fix it :-/

Paul

Thanks, Paul. I needed that.