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Lynn McGuire[_2_] January 3rd 18 08:06 PM

“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
 
“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”

https://www.pcmag.com/news/358249/in...ix-means-slowe

“Over the next few weeks there’s a very good chance your PC or laptop is
going to take a significant performance hit. The worst case scenario
being it will get 30 percent slower. Worse than that is the fact you can
do nothing about it as the slow down is a side effect of fixing a major
design flaw in Intel processors.”

I cannot tell yet if this is a real problem or not.

BTW, I am wondering if this is another CIA backdoor.

Intel is gone. The class action on this one will force them into
bankruptcy as the flaw is apparently in all Pentium and newer Cpus.

Lynn

Doomsdrzej[_2_] January 3rd 18 08:51 PM

Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs
 
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 14:06:30 -0600, Lynn McGuire
wrote:

Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs

https://www.pcmag.com/news/358249/in...ix-means-slowe

Over the next few weeks theres a very good chance your PC or laptop is
going to take a significant performance hit. The worst case scenario
being it will get 30 percent slower. Worse than that is the fact you can
do nothing about it as the slow down is a side effect of fixing a major
design flaw in Intel processors.

I cannot tell yet if this is a real problem or not.

BTW, I am wondering if this is another CIA backdoor.

Intel is gone. The class action on this one will force them into
bankruptcy as the flaw is apparently in all Pentium and newer Cpus.


I'm looking forward to seeing whether there will indeed be a class
action lawsuit. Either way, this is more than enough for me to abandon
Intel with the next computer purchase. I've _always_ preferred AMD and
only begrudgingly accepted Intel in the computer I received as a trade
for my PS3 and the gaming laptop I purchased later on. I _never_
trusted them and it looks like I was right not to.

I can only hope that AMD starts taking gaming laptops more seriously
going forward. They've got some interesting mobile technology but
aren't very good at getting manufacturers to use it.

Paul[_32_] January 3rd 18 09:23 PM

“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
 
Lynn McGuire wrote:
“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”

https://www.pcmag.com/news/358249/in...ix-means-slowe


“Over the next few weeks there’s a very good chance your PC or laptop is
going to take a significant performance hit. The worst case scenario
being it will get 30 percent slower. Worse than that is the fact you can
do nothing about it as the slow down is a side effect of fixing a major
design flaw in Intel processors.”

I cannot tell yet if this is a real problem or not.

BTW, I am wondering if this is another CIA backdoor.

Intel is gone. The class action on this one will force them into
bankruptcy as the flaw is apparently in all Pentium and newer Cpus.

Lynn


This one (finally) adds a bit more context.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...erous-patches/

A comment from the Ars article, points here.

https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/...erheitsluecke/

Translated...

https://translate.google.com/transla...%2F&edit-text=

In the ComputerBase editorial office, the last used processor test
system was again used after the holidays with an Intel Core i7-7700K.
On a second SSD exactly the same benchmarks were loaded, but there
was not installed the Windows 10 Case Creators Update , but the latest
Insider Preview Build 17063 from 19 December 2017, in which the patch
is already active . The selected benchmarks do not depend on the
performance of the SSD.

Windows benchmarks: applications

In the six applications, there is almost no difference, only the
benchmark of 7-Zip, which runs in RAM, falls 2 percent behind
measurably lower.

Let's hope the 17063 didn't ship as an A versus B patch, with
only half the users having the KPTI patch enabled, for telemetry
and testing.

Paul

Andy Burns[_6_] January 3rd 18 09:32 PM

“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
 
Paul wrote:

This one (finally) adds a bit more context.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...erous-patches/


https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings

"Intel believes these exploits do not have the potential to corrupt,
modify or delete data"

So it just leaks data then, that's OK :-P


Paul[_32_] January 3rd 18 10:46 PM

“Intel Chips Have a Major Design Flaw and the Fix Means Slower PCs”
 
Andy Burns wrote:
Paul wrote:

This one (finally) adds a bit more context.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...erous-patches/


https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings


"Intel believes these exploits do not have the potential to corrupt,
modify or delete data"

So it just leaks data then, that's OK :-P


So the Intel P.R. machine is in low gear right now.

I'd hate to see it when it hits OverDrive.

And the stock market is conflicted. The stocks went
in the expected direction, but corrected later in the day.

Paul


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