On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:32:46 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-05 08:28, Ed Cryer wrote:
jbm wrote:
On 04/12/2017 23:07, Ed Cryer wrote:


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


You're lucky. Where I live in the UK they start charging you as soon
as you sit down - £1 for every 20 minutes.

jim


My guess is that that's one of your council's solutions to handle cuts.
Our council has started charging 30GBP per annum to empty green wheelies.

Ed

Cutting taxes at the national level just sifts the taxes to the local
level. Political Economy 101.


That sounds like the old feudal economics. We're into democratic,
new-age, capitalism here. It goes like this. We elect a left-wing
government that loves the people.

What you call "loving the people" actually constitutes sexual assault.
Ask Conyers, Weinstein, Weiner, Franken, Clinton and others about
their "love."

They go to the gnomes of Zurich at
Gringolds Bank, and bring home lots of lovely dosh that they scatter
over the people. Eventually half the people revolt, saying that only the
people at the lower end of the income spectrum are getting better, so we
elect a right-wing government to unfetter the wealth-producers. They
trundle along nicely, fending off all counter-counter-revs from the
housing estates until the debt-repayments begin to cripple us.

Yeah, liberals are definitely not the ones creating the debt. After
all, it's not like your last president doubled the debt or anything.
Also, how did the Clintons become multi-millionaires from their
political salaries?

New Plan. Let's make everybody middle-class. Own their own homes, have
shares in banks and utilities, read 19th c Russian novels, give
dinner-parties, enfranchise all minorities, embrace the world.
Until ...... (all of a sudden) Brexit! WTF?
Followed closely by the Donald! WTF?

So then we look to history to display regularities, show us what's
likely now. And, of course, we find it - war; something to wipe out the
worries, unite the tribes, realign values (courage and reckless
patriotism come to predominate over all others), reduce a few countries
to rubble.

Liberalism will reduce us to ashes, conservatism will allow all
civilizations to flourish.