On 2014-08-13 1:49 PM, A wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-13 1:29 PM, A wrote:
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
. . .winston wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
I downloaded the MS up date yesterday it comes with several critical
and
one optional update. The optional update is as large as the several
critical updates.

Once applied I did not note any obvious differences. In fact from
all
of the hype leading up to the update, I was slightly disappointed.

After the update I had to update Adobe Shockwave.


Has this upgrade gone that smooth that no one had problems, or
have I
been tricked into download near 400 MB of male ware. ;-) Please
don't
say Yes


Hi, Keith

Nothing earthshaking for this update (aka August update and
incorrectly
referred to as Update 2). Some under-the-hood and some features.

MSFT lingo
qp
..customers can expect that we’ll use our already existing monthly
update process to deliver more frequent improvements along with the
security updates normally provided as part of “Update Tuesday.” So
despite rumors and speculation, we are not planning to deliver a
Windows
8.1 “Update 2.”
/qp

In this case those features/improvements appear to be centered on
only a
few areas
- touchpad, Miracast Receive, Login prompt delay for online
Sharepointe.

Afiacs, any significant changes won't be available until next year
(April 2015) when Windows 9 (or whatever its called) will hit GA
(General Availability) after RTM (Release to Manufacturing).





Do you know if Windows 9 will be a rental?

Nothing public is available on the form.

The current 'rumor' is that the next Windows will be available in the
same/similar forms as in the past for Consumers and Enterprise though a
lease-type/subscription version of the same deployment type as Office
365 would seem to be expected/inevitable for Win9 or later.

Other things of note that could have an impact.
Office 2013 (not 365) is no longer available as media in the retail
market (product pack includes a Product Key and download link).
Currently Windows 8.1 is only available as full version no upgrade
(Download from MSFT with media extra cost *or* Retail and OEM/System
Builder with media)
- thus Win9 could also follow one of both of those paths (no media,
all full version)in addition to a subscription version.

A few things seem probable based on how Win8.1 was handled.
- Windows 9, like Windows 8.1 won't be designed for installation on pcs
running Vista or XP.
- Upgrade installs using the full version (download or media) will only
retain files/settings when a supported o/s is present on the machine
(Win7, Win8, Win8.1 and/or setup.exe is run from within that supported
system...though its possible that Win7 to Win9 will only be custom
installs. Custom installs are clean installs.

As with anything MSFT, we'll know when they tell us.



Thanks. I hope 9 isn't a rental only but, if so, I will continue to use
7 and 8 and slowly migrate to Linux. The idea that the OS, programs and
data is on their servers doesn't appeal to me very much. I can, though,
see how they will be able to sell it to users who just want it to work
and don't want to know how it works, how to fix it if it stops working
or have to do any updating.

If they have an approach to the operating system similar to what they
have with Office 365, count me in. I find Office 365 INCREDIBLY
convenient and love the fact that it saves everything to OneDrive by
default. It is virtually impossible to delete any of your work in
progress as a result of this default feature. If Microsoft wants to
charge me say 5$ or 10$ per months to make sure that my Windows
installation updates for as long as I keep paying while still offering
stand-alone Windows versions like they do with Office, I'd be very fine
with that.


You're the kind of sheep MS just loves. I'm sure businesses that want to
protect intellectual property would disagree with you. Even Microsoft
can be hacked. And if you miss a payment, bye bye data. You say you
would never miss a payment? If so, you're pretty ****ing stupid. $5 or
$10 a month? LOL! You're kidding, right?

Considering Office costs about as much as Windows does for a license, I
don't see why they would charge more than 10$. As for never missing a
payment, I have excellent credit and constantly have funds in my bank
account so I can't imagine why I would miss a payment. If wanting to
have the latest versions of both Office and Windows because they are
clearly better than the alternatives makes me a sheep though, you must
not have as deep an appreciation for quality work as I do.

No, GNU/Linux and LibreOffice are not quality work in comparison to
Windows and MS Office.

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Silver Slimer
OpenMedia Supporter
GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data