pyotr filipivich wrote:

"Mayayana" on Sun, 5 Aug 2018 14:18:16 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

I was most pleased to not have to get electronic ignition
or windows. Both are very expensive and superfluous.
Power windows might be nice when I get too old to
reach across to put down the passenger-side
window. On the other hand, they don't work at all with
the car turned off. That can be maddening at the beach
while you wait for the driver to get in and start the car.

Or you have to get in to turn the key, in order to close the
passenger side window before it rains.

I doubt 1-2 seconds to turn the ignition to On will matter regarding how
much water has rained into your car. By the time you realize that you
need to close the window, it has already started or has been raining.
The problem is the car owner refusing to let you have their car key to
close their windows (because they won't or cannot); however, in that
case, you're not getting into their car to close the window, anyway,
whether the window is mechanical or electrical.

There are rural locations where car owners leave their cars unlocked all
the time, even when going into "town" (grain silos with one convenience
store). Are we making generalizations based on unusual scenarios? Do
those folks actually have a higher density of new cars or are they
mostly driving old and rusty pickups?