On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So
today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though
I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password.
Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes
for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?

An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not
listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the
same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false
starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take
up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking
again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close
by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.Â* Thunderbird
again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my
remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on
the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has
filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!Â* More later, as it happens.

Hi Art,

I feel your pain.

I have a customer that needed a business account for a
fixed IP and no blocked ports. Frontier had no business
circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit
which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets. I showed
them traces and where exactly in the system they were
having the issue. The techs threw their hands up in
the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall
was told by company policy not to speak with customers
and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his
desk, which he ignored. No amount of complaining by me
or the techs got anywhere.

The solution was to get another ISP.

I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers
he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect
his fax line. They apologize all over the place and
fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax
going down again. Ah ya, it was the same guy with
the sticky notes again. And again, no amount of
complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. "Oh
this is wrong" and down the fax went again.

The solution was also to get another ISP.

If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line,
they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy.
Only the techs. They call me, I give them the
information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks".

I can not explain Frontier. They are a bunch of, well,
I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth
out with soap.

And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad. (They are.)

I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area.
They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE
at their company. It makes a YUGE difference when the
right hand knows what the left hand is doing. We refer
each other a lot. And since it is my company policy NOT
to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of
interest -- it works out nicely. I only refer when it
is in my customer's best interest.

I don't care for the service from big companies.

Get another ISP. This link will give you a (mostly
accurate) list:

https://broadbandnow.com/

-T