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Sun, 16 Jul 2017
20:31:59 GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

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Diesel wrote:



users have full control over what's stored on the cloud, no
matter who runs the servers.

ROFL, No, they don't.

yes they absolutely do.

Tell that to the users of the former megaupload site. I'm sure
that would give them a chuckle or two, in between crying about
the data loss.

they have only themselves to blame for losing data because they
had only one copy of their data (no backups) and on a service
mainly used for pirated content. it's no surprise to anyone (other
than the naive) that it was ultimately shut down. call it karma.

The service wasn't mainly used for pirated content. You've drank too
much antipirate koolaid.

and that has nothing whatsoever to do with control, which is
always up to the user.

No, again, it's not. You have no control over the cloud itself, the
equipment, etc. You're an end user of the 'cloud' package you opted
to go with. You don't even get to decide which crypto (if any) is
used, nor can you review the implementation to ensure it's sound and
will do it's job. You have NO control over the cloud itself.

you might not, but that's due to your lack of knowledge about
the cloud and what can be done.

You do realize there's more than one cloud, right?

of course, and i use several.

Why several? Don't you trust a single one enough? Worried they might
fail and take whatever you don't have local backups of with them?

apparently you do not, since you think megaupload is somehow
representative of all cloud services and that all will have the
same fate.

I don't use clouds. And, I was using megaupload as an example, to
counter your claim that you have full control as a user of the
service.

If something happens to the servers that
provide that particular cloud, you can be essentially, locked
out of your data if you only trusted your backups to that
'cloud'

nobody said anything about backups.

I did. It's a great example. Especially with the radio/tv
advertising concerning it. You don't live under a rock, right?

it's not a great example, because the cloud is *much* more than
just backups.

Christ.

only someone who lives under a rock would think that backup is all
there is to the cloud.

That isn't what I wrote.

only someone who lives under a rock would think that megaupload is
representative of all cloud services.

That isn't what I wrote either.


Who said anything about such a limited backup? What good would
that really do you if something happened to your house?

exactly why cloud backups are useful.

You can have offsite backups without having to trust your data with
people you don't know and have never met...Which is what you're doing
when you opt for using a cloud service to backup your data. Like it
or not. They can close at any time, have service issues, failures,
change companies, etc. All potentially bad for your access to your
own data. They can also be compromised, and, depending on the crypto
they used (if they used it) and how it was implemented, your data may
not be as safe as you were lead to believe it was, once a copy is
made available to someone else.

and 'such a limited backup' is what people usually have, that is
if they have a backup at all, which most do not.

You make some silly assumptions at times. Some people haven't
smartened up concerning backing up what matters to them, but, I
wouldn't go so far as to say it's still Most these days.


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