In article , Steven Watkins
wrote:

When I need Gigabit between computers, I buy my own Gigabit
switch and plug one of the ports into the internet router. Really
no need to have that as standard on the router.

it is when you have internet speeds of 100mbit or faster,

Except these routers are given to people with speeds under 100.

gigabit is cheap and people eventually will upgrade, especially when
all it takes is a phone call or clicking a button online.

And waiting for newer technology and probably new cables or fibre to be
laid
for hundreds of miles under the roads.

that's already there, and has been for years.

********. BT had to lay fibre under the roads to get me FTTC. It's still
not available everywhere.

maybe where you are, but elsewhere that was done long ago, without any
need to upgrade it.

cable networks keep improving the protocol for faster speeds, now at
docsis 3.1 & gigabit, using the same cables they had for docsis 2 & 1.

gigabit fios uses existing fibre. they have been installing gpons for
years, but for those who have an older fpon and want 100mbit service
(which is now the minimum or one step up), it's a simple replacement,
and since the fpon is on the outside of the house, nobody needs to be
home for that to happen.

and then there's wireless. gigabit lte deployments are starting to
become common, and 5g will be faster still.

Most people don't have several computers,

oh yes they do.

most people have *numerous* devices on their network, including
multiple computers, smartphones, tablets, a printer, set top boxes,
security cameras, iot devices and more. most are on wifi, but some will
be wired.

Yes, but most of those don't transfer anything requiring gigabit.

oh yes they do.

hdtv & 4ktv over 100bt is going to have problems

If the internet connection is over 100Mbit, there'll be a faster router. The
ISP ain't gonna give away an expensive router before it's needed.

they will, because the difference in cost is negligible, if anything.
100bt equipment is obsolete.

plus, if the customer has gigabit equipment, they will be able to
upgrade without a service call. it's cheaper in the long run and a much
better experience for the customer.


and copying anything
other than tiny files will take a lot of time, no matter what device it
is.

Most people only copy tiny files. Or not at all. 90% of people wouldn't
even know how to set up file sharing.

nonsense to both.

an hd video is typically 2 gig *each*. raw photos from an slr are 30-50
meg *each*. shoot a few hundred photos at an event and that's another
5-10 gig, often more. the windows 10 installer about 5 gig. many apps
are a gig or two, especially games with a lot of graphics, some much
more than that.

My
neighbour has two tablets, two laptops, and a desktop. The only network
activity between them is to share a printer. Otherwise they all get used
for Facebook, email, and Ebay.

what your neighbor does is not representative of the rest of the world.

She's pretty typical of the uneducated masses.

fortunately, a lot of the masses are educated.

try hanging out with smart people for a change.

pointless to have a more expensive
router just for the few that transfer large files between machines.

gigabit routers are cheap, and actually a bottleneck.

a usb 3 spinning hard drive is *faster* than gigabit, an internal ssd
or raid even more so.

Not in my experience, my USB 3 hard disks were **** until I removed them
from
their caddies and put them inside the computers onto SATA.

then your system is defective or you did something wrong.

No, the USB interfaces tend to be cheap ****.

nonsense, and the limiting factor is the drive, not the cost of the
interface.

usb 3 is capable of 5gb/s, with usb 3.1 gen 2 at 10 gb/s.

and then there's thunderbolt at 40 gb/s.

gigabit is slow in comparison.

typical speeds for a usb 3 spinner (i.e., slow) are around 120-130
mbyte/sec (already faster than gigabit) with the better ssds & raid
around 300 mbyte/sec, or *3* gigabit/sec, sometimes even more.

gigabit is a bottleneck, and that's only going to get worse going
forward.

You really don't have a ****ing clue.

ad hominem.


If you
do have several computers, one extra box is nothing,
especially when you screw it under the desk like I do.

it adds up quickly.

One box is nothing compared to 5 computers and monitors.

it adds up,

It's a 100th of the size of a computer. It's the same size as a ****ing
doorbell chime.

that depends on the computer and the switch.

a network switch, which actually is a computer itself, is roughly the
same size or even bigger than a smartphone, set top box and/or nuc.
some switches are bigger than a laptop, with a few of them bigger than
a desktop.

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and the various devices aren't all going to be next to the
modem anyway.

The way you want it, it would be IN the modem, so it has to be
"next to it". At least remember your own ideas.

the switch would be, but the rest of the stuff, no.