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I haven't used any Linux Live on any Windows system since that day
except I started today. And I tried 8.04, 9.10, and 12.04.1 so far
of Ubuntu Live and every one of them were accessing the Windows
drive a number of times while Linux was booting. Philo says that
doesn't happen. Yet I bet it happens for everybody on any system.
Why? What is Linux doing with the Windows drive?
I tried the same with BartPE. And BartPE booted completely and the
Windows drive light never lit up even once. So there is no way
anybody is going to tell me that Linux Live doesn't touch your
Windows drive. As the drive's access light is saying otherwise.
snip
While loading, a Linux Live CD checks if any hard drives are
attached to the system, so it can list them in the Linux GUI if the
user wants to mount them later. That's why the hard drive light
flashes.... it has nothing to do with "accessing" or writing to the
hard drive, or executing anything on the hard drive.
I could understand a small amount of drive light flicker, but have
you actually watched it? As there is a huge amount of drive flicker
as Ubuntu Live boots. BartPE also checks what is attached to the
system and I never see the drive lights even flash once. No Ubuntu
Live is doing a lot more than that. And also didn't you read Paul's
post? He too has noticed it is doing a lot more to the drive.
"huge amount of drive light flicker" is a subjective and unscientific
criteria and is not concrete evidence that anything is being done
other than checking the drive. Live CD enumerates the partitions so
they can be displayed for mounting. Bart's may do it differently or
not at all at boot. Irrelevant.
Subjective and unscientific. yes sort of. I could run some more tests,
but the amount of light flicker was on the order of what I would expect
is something was reading 200MB or more of information. And just checking
volumes for mounting I wouldn't expect more than just a quick flash or
two. BartPE also checks what drives are available and it never flashes
the hard drive light while it is booting. There is a huge
difference here.
I just booted up Puppy Live. And only when the screen showed loading
drive drivers and the Windows drive flashed for about 0.2 second and
that is all. That too is perfectly normal. Although Ubuntu hits the
Windows drive very aggressively. Totally not normal!
I already read and responded to the comment you related being made by
Paul.... he was referring in that comment to modified specialized Live
CDs like Kaspersky's rescue CD, which as I already stated is NOT a
standard Linux Live CD.
Paul did talk about that. But he also talked about this from the get-go:
[Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:48 PM]
The only practice I don't approve on, from the Linux community,
is "scanning" of drives as part of the startup sequence. Some
LiveCD distros, are known to "search" for a copy of the image
you're booting from. Presumably the purpose, is to do a
loopback mount of the image, as a replacement for accessing the
CD itself. But I still don't approve of monkey-business. A
LiveCD should just mind its own business. ~ Paul
I note that while you give a quote you say is from Paul, I have not
found that post online... do you have a link to his actual full post
in an archive such as Google Groups?
I have the actual post in my archive complete with headers and all. My
personal reference for that post is:
C:\My Documents\Posts Backup\Microsoft\
Ubuntu Live Re_ Windows not load 001.nws
Under Google News, it led me here. It's the second from the end.
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/win...4036245p2.html
I also note that the last time you posted about this "issue" a few
months ago in this group, Paul's only contribution to the conversation
did not corroborate what you were saying then.
Well I don't know which one that you are referring too. Can you give me
part of the post, or date or something to go by so I can see what you
are referring too?
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Bill
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