BillW50 wrote:

BillW50 wrote:

VanguardLH wrote ...

Did you try running the setup.exe with NO network access so the
wrapper couldn't phone home?

Absolutely!

Then it wasn't the typical GOTD install that limits you to the giveaway
day. Too bad GOTD doesn't identity their limited installs versus the
author-original installs. The latter type is so rare that the
expectation is a GOTD download will have their phone-home wrapper.

So you're going to make someone bounce between a word processor and
spreadsheet program just to, for example, see a list of ingredients in
a recipe?

Naw, MS Word can read Excel tables right inside of a Word document. This
is called integration.

First you argue that table support isn't needed. I wasn't talking about
spreadsheet integration but using tables they way they are prevalently
used: for formatting. Now you're trying to recover by arguing about
embedded spreadsheets for tables despite that Altantis is NOT an office
suite, is only a word processor, and there would be no spreadsheet
program to integrate with their word processor. You're wandering.

I was mentioning what Atlantis' word processor does NOT have.

Really, that's your argument for not supporting tables in a word
processor, that you don't need columnar formatting ever?

I don't think of columns as tables per se. By the way, Atlantis does
support columns.

Might be doable to make up for the lack of table support for formatting.

Uh huh, and I suppose you never used the tab key to align text either
in a single or multiple columns.

I've been using word processors and text editors since the early 80's.

And I'm even older than you and using computers even longer. Irrelevant
to the discussion of why tables are missing from Atlantis. The point is
that having to use tab keys is a clumsy method to make up for the lack
of support tables (regardless of what software would support 30 years
ago).

I can't think of a single time I wanted to
create a table (outside of a spreadsheet).

So you are again using your limited experience to dictate that a product
doesn't need a feature in a product that is used by lots of other users.
Did you contract with Sun Rising to produce this product just for you?

I don't know, we do pretty well in plain text newsgroups without all of
that stuff.

Wow, the limit for use of a word processor by you is that it only need
to create documents for publishing in text-only newsgroups? Frankly I
didn't think anyone would be using a *word processor* to post in Usenet.
I didn't realize the discussion was about the LCD (lowest common
denominator) feature set of a word processor to do plain text editing.
Seems you should be happy with Notepad in Windows and vim in Linux.

I have to wonder over such a long time with no changes, especially to
accomodate customer requests, if the product is dead.

I have a ton of such software. Although I have a different take about
viewing such software. Most of these products virtually had been all
ironed out. And they are far from the early buggy versions. And I think
most software should be like this.

Despite the argument, stagnant software is still stagnant software.
That it got "ironed out" to no longer have any updates for a long time
means it met the criteria of functionality designed by the author. Yet
word processors shouldn't be stagnant software. We're not talking about
edline or sed here.

To me, this looks like Chinesware were further development wasn't
warranted because the revenue stream didn't support it. Using GOTD is
just another means for authors to get free advertising both at the GOTD
site and through word of mouth from users. They pump up the advertising
for a staid product.

Take a look at Mozilla for example. I view their products as always
under construction and will never be completed. You can't develop good
software using this model. What you always end up with is bloated
spaghetti code.

And most users here aren't still using a staid OS, like CP/M, either.
The very term "software" mean flexibility and change, not cast in stone.
If you don't like change, computers are definitely nothing you should
get involved with.