J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
VanguardLH WROTE:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
And Outlook-Quotefix
I left that out deliberately. It's a bad kludge. As I recall, you
had to install AutoHotkey because the "fix" relies on a hotkey
triggering a macro defined in AutoHotkey. Once the user opens a new
write window to compose a new message (even for a reply), the user
must remember to hit the AutoHotkey before clicking on the Send
button. Install software, remember to run macro before Send.
Kludge setup.
I'm pretty sure I'd have remembered if I had to do anything like that. I
installed it on the work machine, since that's where I had to use
Outlook, and they were fussy about letting anything extra work - I was
surprised to get O-Q to. But you might be right - it's so long since
work was using a version (of Outlook) where O-Q would work, I might have
forgotten.
Oops, the part about needing AutoHotkey was wrong. See:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mac...QuoteFixMacro/
(Used to be at
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/)
It is a VBA macro installed into Outlook. It was still a manual
operation: the user had to remember to run the macro before.
It used, before a certain version, to _appear_ to do news:
Nope, never in Outlook, only in Outlook Express (which was Microsoft's
renaming of Internet Mail and News hence the filename of msimn.exe -
Microsoft likes to [re]name products with confusing names, even when the
filename doesn't change). The only way to get Outlook to support NNTP
was to install an add-on, like:
Newshound add-on
http://www.shorelinesoftware.com (but they disappeared a while ago)
MapiLab's NNTP add-on
https://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/
I forget the details, but it actually called the OE that it knew would
be there.
Oh yeah, I remember something like that. There was a "Go News" menu bar
entry that all it did was call msimn.exe to open in its own window to do
newsgroups. There was a command-line switch to load OE only it
newsgroups mode. The menu entry in Outlook (to separately run OE) got
dropped back in Outlook 2003, so it was available only in prior
versions.
https://www.outlook-tips.net/how-to/go-news-is-missing/
Outlook didn't do newsgroups. It merely had a menu-ized link to an
external program (msimn.exe aka OE) to do newsgroups. Well, having a
desktop or taskbar toolbar shortcut or a key shortcut to msimn.exe was
just as easy. OE first came bundled with IE version 3. Microsoft
dropped OE from IE7 (OE6 was last available in IE6), so there was no
guaranteed msimn.was was on the host and Microsoft dropped the hardcoded
link in Outlook that might point to an executable that doesn't exist.
Windows XP came with IE6 as the base version of that program (although
it could get updated up to IE8). Plus Outlook wasn't doing newsgroups,
anyway.
In e-mail, top-posting is the de facto norm in replies.
De facto is right, unfortunately.
And HTML formatting, too, despite the entire message might only require
plain text.
For awhile, e-mail providers were not including both MIME parts (text
and HTML) for text-only e-mails. I remember when Hotmail (when using
its webmail client), would format outbound e-mails in HTML, add the MIME
part for HTML, but omit the MIME part for the text versions. The result
is that switching to plain-text only in some e-mail clients resulted in
see the HTML code since there was no text MIME part to grab and render.
Some clients would try to render the sole HTML MIME part as text but
sometimes that rendering would not be the same as if a text MIME part
had been included in the message.