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Old July 29th 15, 10:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and Related Info



"Ed Cryer" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:


". . .winston" wrote in message
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Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10


Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a
product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not
require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.
actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this
PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows
10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that
your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.

That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be
done from within the qualifying o/s.

Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller
than the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have
thought it would be the other way around.

PRO is smarter.


Ken1943

On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I
count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either
the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file.

I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned
them to DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after
I received the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads-
$WINDOWS.~BT and $WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few
files, whereas the WS folder has what looks to be a complete set of
files for setting up Windows. Both of these folders were created well
after I got the ISOs, so that's why I don't think they're associated
with my downloads. And, the WS folder is 5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes),
almost like it has both x86 and x64 installations, although there's an
installx64.esd file (2.63 GB (2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus
the WS folder is a hidden folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular,
general folder. So, to me, it looks like I got the promised installation
files, plus the 2 ISOs I downloaded.

I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too.
That one has the reminder also :-)


I've got both those folders too; the WS folder was created shortly after
the download started, the BT one shortly after it finished.
I've burned the image to disc, and I was going to carry it upstairs and
try an install on a Win8.1 machine. That won't have, of course, those two
folders, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work ok. And that makes me
wonder just what those folders are.
Neither of them is hidden here under Win7.

Ed


Yep, I found that out after I downloaded the ISO on my Win8 machine. I also
found out that the Win10Prox64 ISO downloaded on my Win8 machine is larger
than the one on my Win7 machine, so it kinda looks like the download IS
associated with the machine. Also, as mentioned by someone else in another
thread, the icon is still in my SysTray but the message recently changed to

"We're validating Windows 10 for your PC. We recommend that you
upgrade after you get your notification that Windows 10 is ready for
your specific PC.

"While upgrades have started for most PCs, we're continuously working
with our partners to ensure that even more PCs work well with
Windows 10"

They are supposed to notify me when it's ready to be installed. I'm
wondering if it has anything to do with the fact that I have an nVidia
chipset and video card, and there is talk of Win10 upgrade crashing with
nVidia. Oh well, I was going to do my Win7 last anyhow :-)
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SC Tom


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