Slimer wrote:

On 2015-03-12 12:41 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
Stormin' Norman wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 17:02:52 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

Stormin' Norman wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:43:56 -0600, "GreyCloud"
wrote:

You are deceiving yourself if you think Linux is not more
secure. It is open for anyone to look at. No back doors.
World wide code checkers. Windows is closed. And M$ doesn't
give a s--- about security. There is a reason why the
International Space Station ripped out Windows.

The US Navy has converted all fleet ballistic missile and fast attack
subs to
run ALL systems on Linux. This was done for security and stability
reasons.

Of course, but it isn't your run of the mill distro either.
It's been customized to suit their own needs. As NSA told the other
vendors that if you want your operating system secure, then get rid of
your browser
and email program. OTW, get off the internet for security.
I doubt that these FBM systems or fast attack subs are hooked up to the
internet. It's the survivability of the os that counts in this
instance and only costs the Navy the cost of modifying it to their
needs, which is why super-computer vendors prefer linux... it save them
a bundle of money not
having to reinvent the wheel. It is the desktop environment that
really stinks.


Rather than engaging in speculation, here is an article about the IT
infrastructure onboard one of the Navy's newest warships, the USS
Zumwalt.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-navys-newest-
warship-is-powered-by-linux/

IMHO, Linux is in fact a ready-for-prime-time player. We are rapidly
migrating
my business over to Linux and away from Windows. Numerous businesses
and government agencies have done this and many more are making
preparations to do so.

Linux by itself is pretty good. The X11 environment is another issue
tho.
It is slow to begin with, but good with networking. It is the distro
makers that make the waters very muddy and the gui on each new release
introduces
new bugs or that they didn't think to test it out thoroughly. RedHat
that I've got is one of the few that seems to be working correctly for
most
things. DOD will modify linux for their own needs and won't even be like
what the regular vendors give. Besides, the fact that linux is free,
makes it easier to fast-track a new development on these warships and
lowers the
cost tremendously. I'd have to see how the system is set up to see what
changes were made.

For business use, even the small VS SQL contract I have with one
business, is asking for MS style services, so I write for that using
Visual Studio.
I couldn't even budge him towards OS X or Linux. He's never heard of
linux,
but knows that OS X isn't business oriented for his needs. It would have
a lot easier to use MySql desktop environment, but he never heard of that
one
either. So it seems to appear an issue of trust on most businessmens
agenda.

If Fedora and Red Hat indeed share code and whatever Red Hat version
you're using is based on 20 or 21, then I suggest that there's a bug
with Mozilla software on certain configurations. On my older i3, both
Thunderbird and Firefox took a good ten to fourteen seconds to load
whereas Windows and any other distribution didn't. This is on a clean
install. Nobody could pinpoint what the problem was and it seemed to
affect a good number of users.

I'm just using Knode. It works.