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Old September 30th 04, 06:36 PM
WayneM
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Default Installing Hi-Speed USB 2.0 PCI Host Card: D.I.D. (Damsel in D

PNW girl,

If you go into Device Manager and look under USB Controllers for the USB 2.0
and/or Enhanced entry, it will indicate who made the chipset but not who
made the card. Maybe you can go to the chipset vendor to see if they can be
any help.

In my case it is an ALI chip set on the PCI card, but the front hub I
installed has a NEC chipset.

Wayne

"PNW girl" wrote in message
...
I am in contact w/the vendor of the USB 2.0 card and they might help me,
but
we'll see. I didn't notice when I purchased it that there was no brand
name
on the card. It flashed by me at some point during installation, but too
quickly for me to see, and I didn't physically inspect the card before I
put
it in. That is one problem. I just bought a firewire/USB 2.0 card that I
was going to install in my daughter's PC, but maybe I'll try it in mine
and
see if the card and drivers I bought are just stinky. I bought the new
one
from CompUSA and it's supposed to be delivered by today or tomorrow.

I was trying to update the BIOS because I kept reading on the forum that I
had to enable USB 2.0 on my BIOS in order to use those ports, but when I
pressed F2 at start up and looked at the BIOS, I did not see any place to
make such a choice. Hence the thought that I should update the BIOS.
There
are two Sony BIOS upgrades that are online for my system, but only one
pertains to Windows XP and I already downloaded and installed that one.
It
fixes only a minute problem, though.

Thank you again for the time you are putting in on this problem. It is
most
appreciated.

"Nathan McNulty" wrote:

If the scanner works fine, it sounds like XP automatically recognized
and installed the card. There must be a different device connected that
is bringing up that Yellow !. Also, you don't really need to update the
BIOS unless the computer is not running properly, though it never really
hurts anything either. It doesn't matter if you update it or not, it
will probably still run the same way.

As for paying for the BIOS update, it should be free from your
(motherboard or computer) manufacturer's website. The ones that people
are charging for are modified BIOS files or replacement BIOS chips. I
wouldn't trust any of them.

----
Nathan McNulty


PNW girl wrote:
I've done that and it can't find them on the CD. The scanner appears
to work
okay so far, I am just not sure at this point what is going on and
don't want
problems down the road.

I've read on this forum of people "updating their BIOS." I used to do
this
on my older computer online by downloading software. There was never a
charge. Have things changed? My internet searches are taking me to
sites
where it will now cost me to upgrade my BIOS. What gives?

"Nathan McNulty" wrote:


Open Device Manager by clicking Start, Run, Type devmgmt.msc and click
OK. Now find the problematic device with the yellow exclamation mark.
Right click on the device, click Update Drivers, then let it search the
CD ROM for the appropriate drivers. This should install the drivers
for
you.

What happens right now if you plug in a USB device to the new card by
the way?

----
Nathan McNulty

PNW girl wrote:

The sound card seems fine and I'm loving it. I removed all files that
I
found that I had installed for the USB 2.0, removed it, brought my
system
back up, installed the driver, shut down, reinstalled the PCI card,
rebooted.

My system said it found a USB hardware device but it went too slow for
me to
know exactly what it said. Then the message went away.

I am still getting the PCI input device error at startup: can't
install the
hardware because doesn't know about driver. It is still showing up in
device
manager as a PCI input device with the yellow question mark.

Do I need to change my BIOS or anything else to enable the Hi-Speed
USB to
be recognized? If so, how do I do this? Is there anything else I can
do?

The frustrating thing is that the instructions on the CD rom do not
match
what is happening. There is no autoinstall or set up on this CD. It
only
prompts me to install Adobe reader so that I can read the
instructions, so I
cancel that as I already have an updated reader. The instructions
just say
to click on the icon. Well, which icon? There are 3 icons! I've
installed
all three and each time, the same filename is used as the install file
name.
This is very confusing. What am I installing?

Help please. Your time spent on this subject is very much
appreciated.

"namniar" wrote:



Oops forgot to add that as per SB instructions they recommend
disabling the
on board soundcard before SB install begins. This is done in BIOS
setup,
accessed by pressing DEL during post (depending upon the mainboard
brand).
Consult your mainboard / Sony manual and or Sony website.

Also, your original USB ports can still be used for devices requiring
only
USB 1.1 speed.

r.


"namniar" this@that wrote in message
.. .


Translation: Two USB ports in the back (which you have found and
cannot
be physically removed, as well as, two USB ports in the front of the
case
likely under some form of plastic bezel probably around the power
button
and/or cd tray. These may or may not be removable depending on if
they
are part of the mainboard or connected via cables - regardless there
is no
point in physically removing them.

Regarding the USB / Soundcard: Remove both, reboot, use system
restore to
get to a point before installing / removeing anything to do with new
cards, reboot as per system restore, install USB drivers as per
instructions (disk should autorun unless autorun is disabled -
explore
cdrom and run setup.exe if necessary), shutdown and install as per
USB
instructions, reboot. Check for yellow triangles in device
manager -
hardware. If no triangles or errors noted plug in your scanner w/o
turning off PC (USB's are hot pluggable) and scanner should be
detected
(watch system tray icons), test the scanner.

Next, install soundcard as per instructions - Soundbaster series
usually
require the card to be installed, restart, cancel XP's attempt to
load /
find drivers, autorun SB cdrom and follow the prompts.

Installing more than one card at a time is usually not a good idea
in my
opinion.

Repost back to let us all know the outcome SVP.

r.



"PNW girl" wrote in message
...


The specs say that the Sony RX 752 comes with 4 USB port
connectors, two
in
the front and two in the back. Translation?

"WayneM" wrote:



I was wondering if PNW girl really has a USB 1.0 PCI card. Unless
the
computer is very old, which it probably isn't since it has XP, USB
1 has
been built into the mainboard. Even my 5 year old FIC socket 370
board
has
built in USB 1.0. I guess it is possible that she added a PCI card
to
get
additional ports but that card should be obvious and not
inaccessible.

At any rate just plugging in the card as suggested by others
should
work. In
my case, my completely patched XP Pro did not find my USB 2.0 PCI
card
and I
had to install the drivers provided on a CD-Rom.

Wayne

"PNW girl" wrote in message
news

Well, a few updates are in order. Before I got these two
answers, I
went
ahead and installed the card w/o installing the software first.
Once
inside,
I found that I could not take out the old USB 1.1 card as I can
not
get to
it. It's behind a mess of other things.

The scanner works, but the yellow exclamation point shows up in
the
device
manager, and I don't think the new USB ports show up on the
Universal
Serial
Bus list. There is a menu item on the list labeled OTHER DEVICES
that
has
the yellow question mark. Clicking on the plus sign reveals a
device
called
PCI INPUT DEVICE. It also has the yellow question mark.

I have service pack one and two installed as I get Windows
updates
automatically.

The disk for the drivers and the instructions do not match. It
says
to
click on the set up driver icon, but there is no such icon when I
look
at
the
disk using the RUN then BROWSE command. There are 3 .exe files,
and I
don't
know for sure which one is for Windows XP. I guess and installed
the
last
one. Here are the names of these driver files:

U2v2_1_4.exe
U2v2_1_6.exe
U2V2_1_8.exe

Do you think there is something else I can do? It does not
appear
that
the
system is recognizing the card as a USB card though the scanner
is
working
and working much more quickly. Should I take it out of the slot,
restart
Windows, load all 3 files, then shut down, put the card back in,
and
restart?
Very perplexing and I apprecite both of your responses and
suggestions.





"Nathan McNulty" wrote:



I can see why they would say that as it adds the drivers to the
list
of
hardware devices XP can recognize. So install the drivers for
the
USB
2.0 card first, shut down the computer, remove the old USB PCI
Card,
put
the new USB 2.0 PCI Card in (doesn't really matter which slot
you
use),
then turn the computer back on. It is actually pretty simple
once
you
get in there and do it. Windows should easily be able to handle
the
change

----
Nathan McNulty

PNW girl wrote:


P.S. The instructions for the USB card say to install the
drivers
first,
then shut down the computer. Your thoughts?

"Nathan McNulty" wrote:




The eject you are speaking of is the Safely Remove Hardware
icon
that
appears in the system tray. This only needs to be used when
removing
external USB devices that are not Optimized for Quick Removal.
Once
you
turn the computer off, this is no longer necessary as it does
the
function for you when Windows is shutting down.

You are saying you want to install the new USB 2.0 PCI Card?
That
can
be done by just turning off the PC, open it up, push it into
the
PCI
slot, and screw it in. While you're at it, you might as well
stick
the
sound card in one of the PCI slots, screw it in, and close up
the
computer. Once you turn it on, you may need to install the
drivers
if
XP
doesn't automatically do it for you.

Last note, you may want to disable onboard sound in the BIOS
once
you
have set up your new sound card

----
Nathan McNulty


PNWgirl wrote:



I purchased a 5-port USB PCI Host Card to upgrade my older
USB. I
keep
getting a message to upgrade because my scanner is a hi-speed
device.
The
directions for installling this card are not clear. It says
to
use
the
"eject or unplug" icon in the system tray bar to eject the
old
card
before
removing it from the PC. However, there is no such icon in
my
system
tray.
What to do?

I have a Sony RX 752, Windows XP. I also want to install a
sound
card
at
the same time and disable my Sis 650/740. But I need to know
about
ejecting
the old USB port before I open my computer up. The
instructions
say
that if
I do not do that, I can damage the hard drive and/or the USB
devices.

Please advise and thank you!






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