On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 08:49:11 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 01:21:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , n/a writes:

Try typing the ASCII code for it. Press the Alt key then enter 041 and
see if it shows on the screen.

That only works if you enter it on the numeric keypad. Which smaller
laptops do not have (except via an obscure fiddle).

As mentioned yesterday, just plug in a second (full size) keyboard, so
when the time comes for you to need a numeric keypad, you have it. You
don't have to 'switch' to the other keyboard; just reach over and start
typing on it.

The only time I really need the numeric pad is to enter character codes
- and on the whole I find AllChars' sequences easier to remember (a
lot). [OK, entering a lot of numbers is a bit easier on a numpad {though
I'm left-handed, but we LHers have to be somewhat ambidextrous}, but I
don't do that a lot; if I did, I'd be using a bigger laptop with a
numpad.]

I wasn't suggesting that you leave a second KB permanently attached. :-)
It's only to help troubleshoot this strange issue that you're having.

Speaking of troubleshooting, if it were me I would have uninstalled both
of the applications that mess with the keyboard and run for a suitable
period of time without them. Keeping them installed and active, and only
disabling one or both when the issue arises, doesn't seem good enough.

--

Char Jackson