| Not all MPVs are shills, not even many of them, but some shills are
| MVPs. Some of them are here.

My view exactly. I've been a regular on many
of the MS groups for programming, OS, scripting,
etc since about 2000. There have been many
cordial and generous MVPs in those groups. There
have even been some anti-MS MVPs. But there
have also been a good number who make it their
job to talk up whatever MS is selling. *Those*
MVPs are always notable for the lack of
intellectual integrity in their arguments.