On 02/10/2018 1:44 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Last couple days SEND is not working from AIOE Unless I have Eternal
-September installed also. If I delete the Internal-september Acct I
get that NNTP Error occurred error with any number of reasons. So I
reinstalled it and now have to change the*from* line to make it work
even though I am not using it. Its now working but strangely, Any
ideas?

Zim zim a la bim, the spirits are about to speak. What? Huh? Hmm, the
spirits are too faint. I can't hear what they said was the NNTP client
you are using. Need a new battery for my crystal ball but those take 6
months to deliver. Tried using my magic telescope that can see around
the Earth's curvature but you had your curtains drawn.

Windows 10 nor any version of Windows does NNTP. A client program does
NNTP but you failed to mention which one you are using. You never
mentioned what "it" is that you reinstalled. What "it" is for your NNTP
client, uninstalling may not delete its user profile folder so you ended
up using the same profile when you did a reinstall of "it".

Yes, I looked at the headers of your post to see you used Thunderbird
this time to post here. That does not mandate the "it" client with
which you are having problems is the the Thunderbird you used here. For
a community focused on Thunderbird, they are over at ---.
.-------------------------------------------------------'
'--- mozilla.support.thunderbird
(on news.mozilla.org, port 119)

Doesn't Thunderbird let you select through which NNTP provider to submit
an article? Or let you pick a default one? While I can have multiple
Usenet providers specified in accounts defined within my NNTP client, it
will still have to pick *one* to which it submits an article. That you
get errors on submit to AIOE sounds like AIOE is having their own
problems. When you submit to Eternal-September, that works so ES is up
but AIOE is down or flaky.

news.eternal-september.org is hosted at Strato AG, Germany. It's a data
center where ES contracts hosting services. When there are problems,
Ray Banana (aka Wolfgang Weyand) has to contact them to correct problems
with their services.

news.aioe.org (217.112.35.97 whose rDNS is v88-u.valuehost.ru -- .ru is
the TLD for Russian Federation) is hosted at Ultransit who has servers
in Russia but whose domain registrant is located in London. That's
where his service originates now. He's moved around a bit starting with
a PC in his gramma's basement over a personal-use account with his ISP.
Quite often when contracting hosting services, the hoster does not
monitor any particular service. So AIOE could remain down or flaky
until Paolo Amoroso (Italy) gets notified (have you informed him?) and
gets Ultransit to correct the problem.

Paolo employs several anti-abuse rules along with many non-standard
rules on use of his service. He has some documented at his web site but
not all his rules are delineated there (news.aioe.org). Some rules you
have to find out through trial and error. For example, there are some
newsgroups that he does not permit in cross-posting. He does (or he
used to) have a quota limit on the maximum number of articles you can
submit each day which he must enforce based on IP address of the client
("server keeps the sender's IP address for each locally posted article")
since he operates a non-registered service. No accounts means no way to
enforce quota by account status. The vast majority of users have
dynamic IP addresses so filtering and quota enforcement by IP address is
flaky. As I recall, his limit was 25 submissions per day. I don't know
if he counted cross-postings as multiple submissions (despite only 1
copy of the article will appear in the Articles database) as he has some
oddball rules. He used to list some of his rules or quotas. Not any
more. His choice of hiding his restrictions does not mean he forego
those restrictions. You never mentioned what were the error messages to
know if there was a problem in your unidentified NNTP client, with
Paolo's contracted service at Ultransit, or you hit some [now
undocumented] goofball or limiting rule in Paolo's service.


Thanks for the explanation, good reading.
This has happened a few times before so it is a nuisance.
To simplify my life at 83 is there another hassle free service I could
be using and just go on with my newsgroup browsing and the occasional
post? :-)

Rene