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Old February 22nd 15, 07:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
R.H. Breener[_2_]
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Default New laptop w/windows 8


"Paul" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:
I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I
get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's
frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in
WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I
moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open?
Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the
years and can't stand them. Thanks.

You can use your search engine, like this

"windows mail" site:sevenforums.com
"windows mail" site:eightforums.com

and get a solution for each OS.

The second article mentions a DLL that has
to be moved and registered so the OS knows
it is there.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html

http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html

On the first article, there is a download, but you can just
as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what
files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones.

In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look
like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings.
The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English
participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00.
The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous
OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an
easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked
out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated
to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort.
The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some
things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't
examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to
create a decent representation, that makes us go through
this hell (of translation).

At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups
has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is
no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what
has already been posted here, when you need an answer.
New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added
at Google headquarters.

Have fun,
Paul


Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into
all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it
came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way
to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work
on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem?


I don't understand. I thought WLM was a purely independent program
(registered in Programs and Features) since if Microsoft bundles it,
they tend to get in trouble in Europe.

It could be, on the laptop, that the manufacturer put that there.
But even so, it should have a remover.


I managed to make some changes in Properties/Security and deleted the one
there as per the sites. But when I try to open WM I get the error that
MSOE.dll can't be loaded. I've Googles myself into a tension headache and
still can't find how to get past that problem. A lot of info online is old.
Out of date.


Note that some software in Windows, is "removed" using the
"Features" controls. That's a subsection of "Programs and Features"
control panel. For example, Hyper-V as a Win8 feature hides in there.
Only, they don't tell you when you don't have the correct hardware
support for that one. Mine failed silently when I tested it a
year ago. I would not expect WLM to be in Features, so don't
get your hopes up.

When a program is not properly registered with Programs and
Features, sometimes if you look in the Program Files (x86) or
equivalent folder, you'll see "uninst.exe", that sort of thing.
That is an example of a program linked to Programs and Features,
for removal purposes. But you can try clicking that manually,
and see what happens. I don't use WLM here, so have *no* example
installs :-) I can't help you. Really.


Odd there are so few people here to help others. These groups used to be
very busy.


*******

As a "suite" of tools, it might be hiding under another name.
When you use this one in Programs and Features, it then has
a sub-menu for removals.

"Programs and features" then
"Windows Live Essentials 2011" --- WLM hides in here


The WindowsMail that comes with W 8 isn't there. It's gone now but the
MSOE.dll problem persists.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...mail-uninstall

Paul


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