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Old January 9th 18, 06:30 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps
Andre G. Isaak
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Default Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?

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Diesel wrote:

"Andre G. Isaak"

Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:49:39 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

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Diesel wrote:

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04:47:49 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

needing to use the numeric keypad to those characters is a
windows shortcoming.

A windows shortcoming? You don't actually need to use the
numeric keypad, you do have other ways of selecting the
extended ascii characters if one so desired. But the point
remains, what normal user is going to search for characters
that aren't shown on their keyboards?

How many normal users even know there's 255 characters in the
ASCII table in the first place?

There's 128 characters in ASCII, not 255.

There's actually 256 characters in the ASCII character set.


No, it isn't.


255, my bad. That includes extended ascii etc... though. And yes, I
understand that strictly speaking, extended ascii is not an addition
to the original ASCII set, which is 128 characters. That being said
though, when I said ASCII table I wasn't isolating 128 original
characters but the entire character set. And I'm not sure how the
person who responded could have not known that?


There is no such thing as extended ASCII. Stating that there are 256
characters in the ASCII table is just plain wrong. If you were intending
to mean some 8-bit codepage, then you're not dealing with an ASCII
table, you're dealing with a ISO-8859-1 table, or a MacRoman table, or a
Windows 1252 table, or any of thousands of possible 8-bit encodings.
Without specifying which encoding you're talking about your claim is
simply uninterpretable.

Plus both windows and Macs have been using unicode for some time
now so ASCII isn't really relevant.

You clearly don't know what unicode is actually doing then...



Well, you certainly don't have the foggiest.


Sure I do. Perhaps you've never heard the term "Wide body ASCII" to
describe Unicode?


That term was used in a draft proposal of Unicode88. Unicode88 was a
predecessor of Unicode. I've never heard anyone use the term to refer to
actual Unicode.

It's an encoding format and there's more than one
of them. Several ASCII characters are used to represent a single
value in Unicode.


Unicode doesn't use several ASCII characters to represent a single UCS
character. It uses several *octets* (between 1 and 4) to represent a
single UCS character. What those octets represent depends on whether you
are using UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32, but in none of those systems can
those octets be meaningfully described as "ASCII characters" except in
the specific instance where UTF-8 is being used to represent characters
that are actually *in* ASCII. In that case *one* ASCII character
represents one UCS character.

Andre

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