"w_tom" wrote in news:1163627884.763097.267420
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

DanS wrote:
People like that get under my skin too. Believe me, I'm all for
intelligent discussions, debates, and even some actual arguing. In the
help newsgroups though, there aren't many actual discussions that go
on,
just helping people to get there stuff together. And really, how can
you
debate a blown-up PSU, or whatever. But w_ (dubya_) needs to get a
grip.

DanS is invited to put forth some technical numbers. Those who
disagree post insults as technical proof. Where does the cadre of
nay-sayers post manufacturer numerical specifications for each type of
transient? They do not because those numbers - those technical facts
- do not exist.

Most damning is Leythos who ignores all those undamaged and
unprotected appliances to proclaim his few surge protectors did
something useful. Leythos uses 'selective data sampling'
apparently because he has 'invisible' protectors.

An informed person does not care what is under their skin. An
informed person has numbers, facts, industry professional citations,
etc to prove a point. So where are numbers from a UPS manufacturer
that define protection from a typically destructive transient? Those
numbers do not exist. DanS, et al never provide those numbers.
Leythos spins 'selective sampling' to prove his myth. Where is the
dedicated earthing wire necessary for effective protection? That
earthing wire does not exist for plug-in solutions. Damning facts.

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And you choose to ignore that devices protected survive while some
unprotected devices do not. (Again, claiming they are proteced by the
invisible surge supressors placed by the surge suppressor fairies.)

At this point though, I am definately not going to reply to you again,
and should have stopped days ago.

I am just pointing out a couple of things one last time.....

1) I NEVER RECOMMENDED ANY TYPE OF SURGE SUPPRESSION OVER WHOLE HOUSE
PROTECTION, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT WHOLE HOUSE PROTECTION INTO THE
DISCUSSION.

2) WHILE THEORY IS GREAT, IT IS ONLY THEORY.

3) YOU CAN NOT CHOOSE TO IGNORE REAL-WORLD RESULTS JUST BECAUSE THEY
DON'T JIVE WITH THEORY, TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

4) YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING THIS SAME ARGUMENT WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OVER A
FIVE YEAR SPAN ON USENET, DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO GIVE IT UP. MANY
PEOPLE IN OTHER GROUPS, FROM WHAT I HAVE READ IN SOME OF THOSE THREADS,
DETEST *ANY* QUESTIONS ABOUT SUGRE SUPPRESSION FROM ANYONE, FOR FEAR YOU
WILL CHIME IN ON THE THREAD. THAT SAYS IT ALL.

Good Night Gracie........