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J. P. Gilliver (John) typed:
In message , Twayne
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Having read all your reponses to date here, it sounds very
much like you

Are you sure you have done so, because:
1. it is not my AV, but the OS's own trap, that is
objecting. You know how when you add new hardware, and the
system asks for a driver, and you load the driver that came
with it, as often as not you get a popup warning you that
said driver is not "Microsoft signed" or something like
that. What was happening was that - despite not having
added any new hardware - the "new hardware found" thing was
popping up (saying the new hardware was this "... shadow
copy"), and when I let it find drivers for it, the "not
signed" box popped up. 2. I already had several restore points present;
presumably
the shadow copy thing must have already been there in order
to make those. So why is it popping up again?
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just won't do it. A good firewall (ZoneAlarm?), a good AV
package (not

I have a firewall (plus what's in the routers of course).

Avira) and good malware detectors are the "norm" for
protection. Some will claim that programs like Super
AntiMalware & such are all that's needed; don't beleive
them. Many programs may catch many of them, but no single
program yet will catch all of them; there are just too
many of them and increasing every day.

Agreed. (How many of each [AV, firewall, detector] - and
which ones - do _you_ run?)

Router Gateway: Westell 327W & comes with NAT - almost as good as a firewall

Firewall: Norton 2010

AV: Norton's AV (real time monitoring) and AVG (used separately, is NOT set
to real time monitor.

Backup: Norton Ghost 14: Full once/month, incrementals nightly.

Spyware/Malwa *WinPatrol;
SuperAnti Spyware; Spybot Search & Destroy; Norton Internet Security;
Adaware; Malware Bytes. Probably a couple others I've missed.
*WinPatrol isn't per sae a scanner, but it WILL stop ANY application it
hasn't seen before from running, so it needs a short training course as you
use your machine. It does so many other things too that I won't go into
them; see their web site if interested.

I run the malware detectors in the approximate sequence as listed, first
one first run. Unless I have a really nasty problem I stop after usinig
Norton Internet Security. I've had both Adaware and MalwareBytes catch
something all the others miss, but not very often. Thus, I keep them around.
I keep AVG around likewise; just a tool for comparisons sometimes but
Norton's AV always catches, historycally, everything and more than AVAST and
AVG. Its heuristics are better than any other I've tried, and their new,
smaller memory footprint makes them faster and useful for the smaller
machines that always had speed complaints.

A not on AV programs: If they find something and fix it for you, run them
again. There is a possibbility the removal may have exposed something else
that was previously hidden. Always run them until they find nothing.

My only claim to "success" with these applications are that I have not had a
viral infection in almost three years now so I'm doing something right. Ymmv
of course because different grographic areas get different knds of viruses
quite often. The last problem I had was a GAIN infection that I stupidly
downloaded myself in another application. I now check reputations for any
sites I haven't visited before and I also use Google's attributes about
various web sites.

HTH,

Twayne`


HTH,

Twayne`





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