On 10/03/2017 09:58 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

Apparently, I have to have "exactly" dot net 3.5 to get Cobian Backup
to work with Volume Shadow Service (VSS).

Is there any trick to this, or just go somewhere on M$ web site
and download and install it?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dot...m-requirements

Nothing less than .NET Framework 4 (back on Windows XP) is listed as
installable. For Windows 10, the tables says nothing less than the
included 4.7 is installable in the Creators edition (which I have to
assume is what you have).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dot...d-dependencies

That's presents differing compatibities regarding what .NET version is
included or can be installed on what version of Windows. That says .Net
3.5 is already bundled in Windows 10. To find what versions of .Net
that are currently installed, see:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dot...-are-installed

To check about .Net 3.5 in your instance of Windows 10, go look under
the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP
registry key to see if a 3.5 subkey is listed under there. So are you
sure your Windows 10 does not already have .NET Framework 3.5 installed?

If it is missing from your particular Windows 10 install, you can grab a
download of the 3.5 installer at:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ils.aspx?id=21
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dot...-35-windows-10

As I recall, the installer will check if a version has dependencies with
prior versions; i.e., some versions won't install unless the requisite
prior version(s) is(are) installed. 3.5 is an incremental update from
3.0 so you need 3.0, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_F...elease_history

That shows 3.5 was the last minor version within that major version.
There wasn't a later version that might modify or rely upon 3.5.

You sure you aren't being disingenuous to your paying customers who want
a real human instead of getting presented with a frankenstein?
Cobian Backup development died back in Dec 2012 - but you already knew
that. That's why you keep repairing Cobian Backup. If they are paying
you, "free" is not their only criteria for a backup solution.



Hi Vanguard,

Thank you! A wonderful write up.

I haven't found anything that has Cobian's feature set
to replace it. You have any suggestions? It must have zero
proprietary formats and backups must be readable by any
file manager, including non-windows file managers. And it
must eMail reports. VSS compatibility is a requirement.

Also, I receive about 175 Cobian eMail reports a weeks from
all my customers using Cobian. It is pretty rare that I
have an issue.

I has also written rotation and ftp wrappers for Cobian.
Eventually, I may just upgrade these wrapper to do it
all myself, but ............

This guy can't contact the VSS service. He throws an error
trying to backup up his Outlook (speaking of Frankenstein)
PST file. A corrupted or missing Dot Net 3.5 seems to be
the issue when Googled.

The worst part about backup is "out of sight, out of mind".
Customer ***** WILL NOT ***** read their backup reports
and find their backups damaged or not at all when they
need them. So I get them emailed to me. I read them
for them for free as it only takes me about 15 minutes a
week go through them all. (I use Thunderbird's "find in message"
feature and Thunderbird's filters.) And I get paid to fix
what goes wrong, typically the drives go bad after about
four years or they stop plugging them in (that happens a lot).

-T