In message , R.Wieser
writes:
John,

I wouldn't. Call it a control, that is.

So, what /would/ you call it ? I already referred to them as
"thingamagotchies", but that is a rather long (and very underscriptive) name
... :-)

Feature, component, element ... to me, "control" implies something the
user can alter.
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Microsoft is well-known for going their own way, and changing the name of
things depending on the colour of the moon ...

That "controls" name has been in use for over 20 years. And thats just how
far back I came in contact with it (using Visual Basic v5). Also, take a
look in C:\Windows\System32. There is a file there named "ComCtl32.dll".
That stands for "COMmon ConTroLs 32bit" (the DLL which holds the code for,
among others, the ListView I've been talking about) . You can find that
file at least as far back as W95 (which would make the "controls" name for
those things almost 25 years old).

Yes, for programmers.

Sounds like you are doing some programming here, or something like that.

Exactly that. As I though you where a (Windows?) programmer yourself I
assumed you would know what I was talking about (even if you would not
exactly know /how/ I did it).

I've never actually programmed aspects of the Windows GUI.

I assumed you were dragging something with the mouse [i. e., to avoid
ambiguity, moving the mouse pointer over it with the button held down], or
touchpad equivalent].

What did you think I ment when I said

Quote:

Originally Posted by me Or maybe just send some WM_xxxx messages to the dekstop window and see if I can alter the icon grid that way.

?

I suppose I must have missed that, with your mention of (I forget your
_exact_ words) some of the icons falling off as you moved it.

(I mentioned that twice)

Not typing parameters into something.

But that is exactly what the above implicated. That is, if you recognised
the "WM_xxxx" reference. Which I now think you didn't.

If I did ascribe meaning to that, I assumed it was telling me more than
I needed to know about how parameters are passed to the relevant
function when you move a graphical control (with the mouse).

The thing boils down to me saying some stuff, and as I did not get any
signals of the contrary I assumed you grasped the meaning of it. That is
how it normally works, right ?

Than again, this is not a programmers newsgroup and I did use words and
wording which might only be known to them. Mea culpa.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

No problem.

To get back to your original query - if I remember it correctly! - you
wanted to know (if I understood you correctly) if you could change the
distance of the top or leftmost row/column of icons, from the top or
left edge. Some of us told you how to change the horizontal and vertical
"grid spacing", but none of us know of a way to change the initial
position of the first row/column in the grid. IIRR, you wanted to do
this because the line/column was over a line or similar feature in the
wallpaper you wanted to use, and for some reason you couldn't just alter
the wallpaper image (zoom it, crop it, or add a border to it).
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