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Old October 25th 19, 03:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_7_]
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Default desktop icons - change grid offset ?

In message , R.Wieser
writes:
John,

I know what controls are.

...
It has four, actually: minimise, maximise, control, and top-left-click
menu. (-:

(I meant to say "close" rather than "control" for the third one.)

The above show you know what controls are (at least to to some extent). But
somehow you cannot grasp the idea that some controls are not readily
recognisable as such ?

It has four, actually: minimise, maximise, control, and top-left-click
menu. (-:


True. I just tried to keep it simple.

Once again, I don't know what control you're referring to there


Maybe the problem is with the name "control".


It most definitely is, in view of what you say below.

How many controls do you see in the below picture - and I don't mean the
ones in the caption bar of the window itself :
http://zetcode.com/img/gui/winapi/statictext.png


None.

Would you be surprised if I told you there is one ? Yes, the "I know you


Yes, very.

told me ..." text is displayed by a control too. In this case the aptly
named "Static control" ('cause it does not respond to keyboard, mouse or
other input methods).


And is therefore not a "control", as most people would use the term. It
may be a control in some very limited sense for the programmer, but no
way is it a control from the user's point of view.

In other words, not all "controls" can be manipulated by the mouse or
keyboard (another example: a progress bar). And not all controls are


I don't think I know anyone who would call a progress bar a control.
Feature, perhaps, if you want a word to include both a progress bar and
the things _I_ would call controls.

readily recognisable as such. In the above case because a static control
normally isn't given a border. In the case of the listview on the desktop
because it has been changed to /not/ to clear its background (causing it to
turn transparent) and is not given a border either.

Does that clarify it a bit ?


Only very slightly. In earlier posts, you said you were moving (what
_you_ call, I now see) a "control" that contains the icons. It now
sounds as if you're referring to something transparent, and thus
probably invisible. I'm puzzled how you (a) move such a thing, (b) know
that you've done so.
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