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Old January 8th 18, 10:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Java Jive news Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:56:21 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

[So another snip of 11 lines of unread bull****]


Your efforts to jump to conclusions do amuse me. Much more so when
they are not based on fact, rather your inferiority complex.

What you wrote above was based on the fact that you incorrectly
assumed you had to use Windows Update from within the host OS
to get updates.

It's based upon the fact that by default, that is unless you
choose to specifically disable automatic updates, Windows XP
installed before end-of-support would automatically update
itself without requiring any human intervention other than
logging on,


You're wrong concerning how XP works again concerning updates. It
didn't require you to login to be able to pull updates, either.


It depended upon user choices made - I always chose to be
notified of updates, and I would choose which and when to install,
in which case Obviously in the former case, you had to be logged
on


Which isn't the default setting. So, if going by defaults, Windows
did not require you to be logged in.

I believe it was also possible just to have them install
automatically. , so again, both of us are right, and in
particular, I was not wrong.


Ahh, but, you were wrong. You said that by default, Windows XP
required you to be logged in to get the updates; and, that's just not
true. It didn't.

[So another snip of 19 lines of unread bull****]


inferiority complex shows again. Amusing, I admit.

What cracks me up more than that though is that anyone (well almost
anyone) can fact check what we've BOTH written and verify that one of
us is indeed far less knowledgeable than the other concerning this
subject, but, alas, it's not me.

So your need to dismiss what I've written multiple times as bull****
doesn't bother me in the least. I have nothing to prove here, no ego
to stroke. I'm just factual in nature and that does offend some who
thought they understood things better than they actually did/do.



Your advice would have cost him money with 50/50 on a good day
chance of working.


As it's obvious that you haven't tried this yourself, you can have
no basis for quoting an exact figure


I've had absolutely no need to go on ebay and purchase an OLD OEM key
for Windows XP. That's just a stupid as **** all thing to do, imo.
I understand if you have seriously limited options and have no other
choice, but, I'm not in such an ackward and uncomfortable position.
And, I know the risks involved in doing that, because, unlike your
retired corporate babysitter self, I've actually been a tech in the
trenches. Which is another reason I found your test so amusing. You
demonstrated by your test that you don't actually know much/anything
about the activation process. That much more so when you thought your
old key could expire on it's own.

and therefore to attempt to
do so is basically dishonest - quoting what you'd like to be the
case, in order to avoid losing an argument, as though it were
fact.


I'm not the one who's dismissing most of what the other wrote, unread
no less, as bull****. So, please, let's not even bring dishonesty or
a desire to 'win' an argument into the discussion. I find your
excuses to be weak, on a good day. From one tech to another *cough*


I who have tried it, based on general reasoning about the
way such things work, think the chances are somewhat higher, but
one is too small a statistical sample to hazard an actual figure,
so I, unlike yourself, am going to be honest and am not going to
hazard a figure.


general reasoning without any technical knowledge of how the
activation process works doesn't help the OP. Had you any real
technical expertise on the subject you would have provided them with
the console command to bring up the activation window and let them
try the options they may have available to them. You didn't, likely,
because you had no idea how to bring the window up. You don't even
know the difference between oem keys, retail keys, slic installs,
vlk, etc. And your understanding of how and when windows XP is
'allowed' to pull updates is laughable, on a good day.

And yes, it would have probably cost him a small
amount of money, but someone under those circumstances might well
have thought it a price worth paying.


A price worth paying? I tend to disagree, due to other options
available to them. Especially considering that they may be able to
resolve the issue with the console command I already provided, which
will cost them NOTHING to try.

Unlikely as long as my PC screen is covered with verbal vomit from
yourself.


You're boring me.

Besides suffering from misplaced delusions of your own
self-importance,


I have nothing to gain with this discussion, either way. I simply
shared knowledge that any real technician already knows. Obviously,
you aren't one.

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