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Old December 31st 17, 12:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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"Michael Logies" wrote

| Yes, it is on its way to legacy even for businesses. I own a business
| (dentist) and have about 7 Windows PCs in my office. I would prefer a
| dental cloud solution which for legal and technical reasons is still
| not available in germany. Less hassle, less admin work for me. I
| assume, that I will use Windows my last 15 years in my office, but the
| next generation will throw it out.
|
| I suppose that what you really mean
| is that using a computer to do work is "legacy".
|
| No. For working in the cloud a PC with "Chrome OS" oder "Cloudready"
| is good enough. My daughter uses a 24" Dell-monitor (1920*1200 pixel)
| and a usual keyboard and mouse with her Chromebit. The Chromebit is
| easily the device booting fastest of all my PCs (but it is always on,
| anyhow), same is true for updates, which take about 10-20 seconds (not
| minutes or hours like Windows).
|

We don't seem to be diagreeing except in interpretation.
You use Windows PCs at work, with local software. Your
daughter uses a Chromebook, for unspecified things.
School work online? You use your phone mainly for email.
The only difference is that you feel it shouldn't
have to be that way. And you trust Google. And
you want a simple device that needs no expertise
to run.

The latter makes sense to me. I can see the appeal
of a tablet for easy things that need computing, where
one doesn't want to be hassled with drivers, software,
hardware, etc. But I don't see the logic of conflating
the two things. The existence of tablets has nothing
to do with the life of desktops, just as the existence of
microwave ovens doesn't make stoves obsolete. A
microwave is a limited-use, specialty tool. (Though just
as some people are glued to their phones, some people
only eat microwave-ready frozen dinners and would be
happy in a studio apt with no stove.

| don't mind not owning their own files,
|
| As I wrote: With Android (and with Chrome OS) you still can have your
| files locally.
|

I don't mean that. I mean that Google products are spyware.
You can get gmail via POP and keep the email locally, but
you can't stop Google from reading your email and claiming
to co-own it. Even the Chrome browser is rife with spyware.
Spyware-generated advertising is their business. They're not
a software or search company and haven't been for a long
time.

https://www.srware.net/en/software_s...me_vs_iron.php

It's up to you if you don't mind the ads, spying and
hijacked private files. But others are also free to mind.
And many of us do.

| I dont`s see ads, not on Windows, nor on Android nor on Chrome OS. VPN
| (with ad and malware blocking) or ad blocker for the web browser for
| all of them.
|

I don't use a computer phone, so I don't know
how ads work there, but I do know from reading
that many apps are making their money as spyware
selling data to advertisers. It's becoming the new
malware.
Ironically, one of the reason I don't have
a computer phone (besides cost, irrelevance and
privacy issues) is because I would want to learn
the system in order to trust it in terms of privacy
and security. And I don't want to have to take on
such a big learning project just to use a phone.
.... So you want phones and tablets and cloud for
convenience and simplicity while I see them as a
very big complication.

As for Windows ads, what about ads for Candy Crush
or MS Office in Metro buttons? Suggestions in the
Start Menu? One Drive ads in File Explorer? A friend
recently told me she avoids the Tile UI mainly
because there are changing, animated ads that
are distracting. And what about all the people complaining
that they've removed something only to have it come
back with the next update?

Maybe you've managed to corral all those things?
Nevertheless, they're doing it.
In Win7 or earlier it would have been unthinkable
for Microsoft to be poking around on a daily basis
and inserting such ads. At worst, that would have
been the shovelware on OEM PCs, like the sneaky
MS Office or Symantec trialware. It seems to me
that MS is taking the boiled frog approach, and it's
working. People using Win10 are very gradually getting
used to lowered expectations and don't even notice
ads being inserted. They no longer expect to control the
system.


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