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Old March 19th 19, 07:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default OT - Looking for a simple explanation - Thunderbird

David in Devon wrote:
On 18/03/2019 22:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 18/03/2019 22.46, David in Devon wrote:
On 18/03/2019 20:54, Big Al wrote:
On 3/18/19 3:57 PM, David in Devon wrote:
Following the detraction of the newsgroups which were hosted hosted
on the Annex.com server for many years, some groups were transferred
to a similar arrangement on the MyPlugBox.com server.

I've set up news.myplugbox.com as a news server on Thunderbird, but
when I try to connect to the server to download the groups, I get
this pop-up asking for my Username and Password.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n70zlorf2w...2019.36.08.png



A similar pop-up occurs, when I use news.eternal-september.orq but,
after I append my Username and Password once, I do not have to do so
again.

As far as I am aware, *anyone* is entitled to use the MyPlugBox
newsgroups *WITHOUT* the need to even _have_ a Username and Password
- it's purported to be a 'protected' environment but, in reality, it
is a free-for-all.

Can anyone reading here use the MyPlugBox newsgroups *without* a need
to supply a username and password?

If so, how may the server owner have manipulated Thunderbird to
require me to have to supply them?

When you setup the newsgroup there is a checkbox to determine if you
need to login or not. You have to set that up for no login required.
Server settings-Security Settings I think.

Thanks Al :-)

You can see that I've left the appropriate tick-box unchecked:-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdq9ufkiw6...2021.19.05.png


No, not the same thing. That's you (your thunderbird) requesting
authentication. But the news server can demand authentication from you
before allowing you in, which is what is happening (I guess).

And once entered, Th may remember the login/pass for ever if you tick
the box on your first photo.


*HOW* can one obtain a Username and Password?

Any clue, Carlos?


Oh, my.

Have you considered a community college hackers course ?

They must really have your number, if it's this hard
to break in. Maybe they have geolocation software and
can see "Devon is calling".

Grab a dictionary, and work your way through the words.

aardvark:aarfvark

aardvark:12345678

aardvark:87654321

...

zebra:zebra

zebra:12345678

zebra:87654321

...

aardvark:11335577

And so on. Eventually you'll discover a working
usernameassword pair.

You've been trying to break into this server for at least
the last two years. You could have made it through the
dictionary at least once, if you had head down and
made a real effort to enter those usernames and passwords.

Now get cracking.

If you're not going to be smart about breaking in,
you might as well keep busy. It shouldn't take
more than around 4 billion years to find a working
username and password.

I can imagine the moment now.

Username: aardvark
Password: zebra

"Welcome back, aardvark"

From: DavidsBrotherMelvin
Subject: Why did you ban David

...

Sincerely,
DavidsBrotherMelvin

Paul
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