In message , Mayayana
writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| (Unfortunately, TP stores it with strong encryption, that can't be
| turned off.)

According to this...

https://www.mailxaminer.com/blog/inv...client-emails/

...it uses Berkeley Mailbox format, or at least can
export in that format as a .mbox file. That's also

Ay, that's the rub: it can export to it, but not then use what it has
exported (without importing it). I don't know what it uses in RAM (quite
likely Berkeley format - TP was standards-compliant to a fault), but its
working files have strong encryption before they're sent to disc.

I was really just bemoaning that, AFAIK and limiting to Windows, _no_
client _uses_ a discrete file for each email, although mot of them
_look_ as if they are (the UI emulating Windows Explorer, to varying
extents).

IE - at least early versions, I don't know about modern ones - uses a
separate file for each "favorite"; I couldn't believe _that_ the first
time I discovered it, since Netscape used a single HTML file for _all_
its bookmarks. (Bookmarks - certainly then and sometimes even now - were
only tens of bytes, a lot less than the cluster size a file takes.) I
think early Firefoxes used similar; later used something different, but
it's still AFAIK one file, and can import from the old ones.
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All of that's to say that you should be able to
get your email out without much trouble, but I'm
not aware of any program that will just export single
messages. I can drag them out onto the desktop
one at a time, as can also be done with TBird. But

TP can export one or many messages (into one .txt file; I don't think it
can export many messages into many files in one go). But it can't be
configured to do so and _work_ with those files.

I can't save all of them. Out of curiosity I tried the
Export function in OE and it told me that it would only
export to Outlook or MS Exchange. Parochial monopoly
strikes again.

)-: I think Outlook is similar. One way - either import or export, I
forget which, maybe both - it will indeed only do so to/from a short
list of clients.
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| Do you use OE as your main email client, then?

You betcha. I've used OE6 for many years. I'm
ambivalent these days because its encryption
methods are no longer usable. It can't handle above
TLS 1.0, if I remember correctly. And that's been
hacked. While it's still probably very useful, many
companies won't support it. I'd have to move to
TBird to get encryption.

I always thought OE - at least, with OE-quotefix - was much maligned; it
works pretty well.

But the value of encryption is debatable. I don't
plan bank heists via email. And I'm already hesitant

[Where do you plan them (-:?]
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OE also has limited security because of its
age. But that doesn't really apply to me. I don't
enable script or HTML email. And with anything

TP can display HTML - and when I say display, I mean exactly that: not
run scripts. (It also shows a couple of buttons if an email has a plain
text and an HTML version, and I usually select the former, though these
days the text version is often just boilerplate text saying your client
is duff or similar.)

that looks fishy I look at the source code first.
Security is for people who open spam as HTML
and can't be bothered checking URLs before
clicking them.
In all other things I find OE very well designed
and fully functional.

This topic was discussed recently. There are a
number of aspects of TBird that I find sloppy or
poorly designed. Starting with the idiotic way
it imports OE email to a second-class sub-tree.
TBird is my first choice if I ever have to switch
over but so far I don't need to.

I think the same applies here (from TP), and it's what I set up anyone
I'm setting up email for with; I accept it may not be the best (though
haven't tried any of the ones claimed to be better), but I think of it
as the best compromise between working _reasonably_ well, not being
_too_ iniquitous, and there being a fairly good chance of (my victims)
being able to find someone to ask about any problems with it.


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