A PC or laptop is not off if in hibernate mode.

Standby and hibernate were initially developed for laptops to save power
when not in use and left on. Which is and was an excellent idea for
laptops.

An easy way to tell if a PC or laptop is initially actually off is to
visually account its display during turn-on.

An MVP would not make such a ludicrous statement.
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Noncompliant

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"leew [MVP]" wrote in message
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Noncompliant wrote:
Neither one turns the computer off.

I completely disagree. Hibernate, as has been mentioned, saves what is in
RAM to the harddisk and then shuts off the computer. I have swapped
laptop hard drives that were in a "hibernate" state and when swapping back
I get the same point I was at. If you tell the computer to hibernate, it
WILL turn the computer off. (I do this with my laptop all the time and
rarely if ever have a problem - definitely haven't had a problem with
hibernate for at least a year).

-Lee