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Old December 31st 17, 04:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Michael Logies
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Default cloud OS?

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 09:43:09 -0500, "Mayayana"
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"Michael Logies" wrote

| No, a Chromebit. That is a full PC in the size of an USB-stick, with a
| big monitor and a big keyboard and mouse attached for using web apps
| (from Google and others).
|

Ah. I didn't know about those. At the CNEt review
page it says 1.8 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB storage. Uses
Google apps and requires an HDMI monitor plus
bluetooth keyboard and mouse. That's easy and
economical?


It has one USB-outlet, too, which is connected to a Dell U2412M
(1920*1200 pixel). The Dell with its internal USB hub connects to a
usual USB-keyboard, a USB-mouse, a USB-soundstick, a USB-camera, if
needed.
A more complete hardware solution is offered by a chromebox or a
chromebook.

It's not even mobile. It's a low-end,
compressed desktop that can only run a few web
apps.


Yes, with minimized TCO, especially maintenance, which is most
important for me.
And Google Apps are much easier and faster to learn than Windows with
classic Desktop apps.
As I wrote, 60% of US-schools are already sold to Chrome OS, proving
that it makes a lot of sense for class rooms:
https://www.neowin.net/news/chrome-o...t-of-the-world
Chrome OS tops in U.S. schools; Windows leads rest of the world
By John Keefer @@keefinator · Dec 6, 2017 · HOT!

So what's the appeal?


Mac, Windows, Linux had 10-100 more security flaws than Chrome OS in
the last several years. Chrome OS does not need a virus scanner.

Devices with Chrome OS are very well integrated with Android. Pictures
and films made with her smartphone camera will go automatically into
her Google account (free & unlimited uploads with the Google Fotos
app), can be used there with any web brower on any PC.
Her smartphone was cluttered by snapchats. We just copied the files to
Google Fotos on her smartphone, emptied data of snapchat, then deleted
all pictures already backuped to Google, and now her smartphone is
usable, again.

Real time collaboration on documents is free and easy to use with
Google Apps.

Saving some money? I suspect
that's rarely a factor.


For me, it is. Saving is a hobby of mine. ;-)

Maybe this appeals because you can limit what your
daughter gets mixed up in?


Only I have her Google account data (same for Chromebit and her
smartphone), so I can have a look on what she is doing.

I'm guessing there are no
S&M chat groups in GoogleVille.


Chrome OS connects to the whole internet... I restrict it with
automatic blacklisting on the router.

because they want you in a scenario where everything
you do costs a feee. Money or ads and/or personal data,
but some kind of fee.


With Microsoft or Linux it`s worse. I had to pay them with a lot more
of my time to keep them usuable and safe.

This is my whole point: The logic simply doesn't add
up. If you want to limit your daughter's activities or
save money on kids school supplies, that might make
sense. Setting up a Chromebit rig to use as a real
computer does not make sense in terms of cost,
practicality, functionality, or even convenience.


We wil see. Web apps are evolving fast, the desktop PC is stagnating:
https://www.mrc-productivity.com/blo...ends-for-2017/
5 big enterprise web application development trends for 2017
January 4, 2017
(...)

She already had some assignments, which were easy to solve with her
chromebit, much easier than it would have been possible on a Windows
PC.

Not because you like web services but because
you're so adamant that they must replace everything else,


Not everything for everyone, but perhaps for 80-90% of all use cases.

You're missing the point. By pretending to do your
work on their website and storing your data on their
cloud, they define it as a service. That justifies the
rent. That also provides the excuse for them to
claim co-ownership of your data.


The legal situation is a bit different in europe, even for Google:
https://privacy.google.com/intl/en_u...al_active=none

Regards

M.
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