"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:25:12 +0100, Alias wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:13:01 +0100, Alias wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
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"Leythos" wrote in message
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Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see
it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in
it.

Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for
heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.

Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have
a
fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example
of
yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out
by
governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.

Can you prove your assertions? Fact is the USA has state sanctioned
murder
and has murdered many innocent people and they do it in public and are
proud
of it.

Disgusting.

Many countries give the eye-for-an-eye treatment to criminals - and they
damn well deserve it. If you kill a mass murderer you are doing a public
service. Sure, there have always been mistakes, even with spain and
other
countries, but I would rather live in a country that punished criminals
than one that rewards them.

Killing criminals is not quite the same as a sanctioned murder - they
imply different types of intent and action in most cases.

I can tell you know, if I were in law enforcement I would have no
trouble
being part of the team that kills murders for their crimes. I've also
advocated going back to public hangings on the local state court-house
lawns with the bodies to remain in public view for at least 4 hours
after
the hanging. In fact, if I could get back into the service and be part
of
a team tracking down and exterminating terrorists I would volunteer in a
heart-beat.

When they confuse you with a mass murderer and kill your ass while you're
screaming "I'm innocent", maybe then you will understand.

I already understand that some "innocent" people get convicted, it's a
statistical certainty. If you also consider that more than 99% of the
people that get the death-penalty are actually guilty, then it's an
acceptable margin that I'm willing to live with. In all the years I've
been around I've only read about 2 cases where a death-row person was
innocent of the crime that got them the death penalty, but they were
actually guilty of other crimes that would have got them life in jail -
and life in jail should be turned to shot-on-entry so that we don't have
to pay for them to stay in prison for the next 60+ years.

I suppose you would rather see child rapists and murders get out on parole
after 40 years since they've been rehabilitated while in prison? You don't
actually believe that crap works do you?

USA: Crime and punishment. High crime rate.

Spain and the rest of the EU: Crime and rehabilitation. Low crime rate.

I rest my case, your honor.

Alias