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Old July 9th 14, 05:08 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,free.usenet,free.spirit
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Default OT Should the police search your smartphone/tablet?

Even if what it's saying actually happened (anecdotes are
worthless without at least hearing the other side of the story),
this "pjp" is missing the point/problem. It's a systemic thing.
It's not that cops are different than the rest of us. In a prior
political office, Senator Amy Klobuchar prides herself on
introducing local legislation that requires police officers to
arrest someone in a domestic violence call. Naturally that's going
to be the man. Easy to figure that most police officers know what
they're doing is wrong, that's why they don't want to get
involved. It's not their fault when they're being forced to do
dirty work.

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In article lph65a$209$1 speranza.aioe.org, ntotrr optonline.net
says...

"John Doe" always.look message.header wrote in message
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You will also notice on YouTube that everybody is gung ho for the
state putting an end to so-called domestic violence. You can't
have one without the other. The reason the state is getting fatter
and uglier is because you are asking it to run every part of our
lives.


Not all of us. I abhor the ever-growing power of our government. I don't
want the government running every part of my life but much of it is intent
on doing just that. Our federal government has become a power-mad monster,
having grabbed far more power than what the Constitution allows. The bottom
line is that we've allowed it by sitting back and letting the monster grow
and sending the same career politicians to office at each election.

Police departments have changed over the years like our government has.
They seek more control over us like the government does. They are becoming
more and more militarized. They don't want to be accountable to the
citizens they claim to serve.

The majority of cops are good ones, like in any other profession. But the
bad ones cause a lot of damage and it's SOP that departments cover for their
actions. Without people having video recording at their fingertips via
their cellphones and posting it on the internet, cops can continue to abuse
citizens and get away with it. They shouldn't fear citizens exercising
their right to record them unless they doing something wrong. As trite as
it may sound, they our servants to the citizens, not the masters over the
citizens. We should not be treated as suspects all the time.


EXACTLY

I'm in 60's. When young I had respect for the police, they were "my
friend" that I could go to for help.

Late 60's living on street. In restaurant drinking cup of coffee I'd
just bought. Two off-duty cops acting as bouncers, without asking me to
leave just picked me up and threw me out the "in door" ending with a
face plant on concrete sidewalk outside. Owner of restaurant didn't like
"long hairs". I'm all of maybe 150lb at time and both of them 6'++ 225+
lbs.

I walked down to police station and walked in to front desk with blood
dripping off me. Told officer what happened while number of others
listened. They started laughing, said derogatory comments and made it
clear they couldn't care less. As I write I can still hear them laughing
as I was forced to walk out with no other option. That wasn't just one
but showed me a gang mentality.

That's what cops are for me, just another gang. They have always been
and likely always will be since. I cry for none of them (only for who
they leave behind hurting), even the three in New Brusnwick little while
ago. They put on a weapon and are prepared to use it on another human
being. That makes them no better than a animal for me.



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