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Old November 12th 08, 01:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger,microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
Peter Foldes
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Earle

You are having another bad day. Did you read the OP's post . Ken's reply was appropriate and correct(All of we) and in proper English be it British,Australian ,American , Canadian and etc.

Might not have been in South African English but it was correct for all others

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"Earle Horton" wrote in message ...
"All of we" does not appear on that page. In this case the pronoun is the
object of the preposition "of" and so the accusative pronoun is required.
According to the advice on the page, which is not bad, «decide which case
fits by narrowing the sentence down to the subject and the verb. If your
pronoun is neither of these then use "us".» Object of a pronoun, therefore
"us". The rules are so simple...

Now which use of Ken's is "correct"? He says "all of we" and "any of us" as
if both were permissible. According to my quick Live Search results, one
person out of 1699 agrees with the first use. The inconsistency is the part
that tells me not to take this guy seriously. Learn to read, and if you
post a link as evidence of your position, read it first.

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Earle Horton --

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote in message
...
Ken's use of "we" is correct. You can begin your basic studying he
http://www.one-step-forward.net/2007...versus-we.html

"Earle Horton" wrote in message
...
: "All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any
intelligent
: live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using normal
: grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people actually talk like
that?
: I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.
:
: --
: Earle Horton --
: -- Defender of the English language.
:
: "Ken Blake" wrote in message
: ...
: "Vodkasoda" wrote in message
: ...
:
: It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+
responses
: it
: has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been
: rattled
: and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might
like
: to
: try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ....
and
if
: they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or
be
: able
: to find out ...
:
:
: Three points:
:
: 1. All of we MVPs are volunteers
:
: 2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and
still
: others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows Live
: Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you regarding any
: problems you have with it.
:
: 3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of problems
: with the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't. In many cases,
we
: wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows
: Messenger, not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't even
know
: the name of a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not an
: established method of getting problems solved, and even if I knew the
: right person at Microsoft and asked him, there is no guarantee that it
: would lead to a solution.
:
:
: perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
: arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they
are
: here
: for ?!?!?
:
:
: No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in certain
areas
: only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and
ignore
: others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough) entirely.
:
:
: They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I
raise
: !!!
:
:
: Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
: requirement that any of us be of any value to you.
:
:
:
:




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